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      just jump over the fence into the zoo enclosure with him, and you’ll probably get your chance

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    I think he’s on to something… In these times of political and economical uncertainty, we should bring back ancient Rome colosseum style games. Modern fighters taking on wild animals for glory. Give the masses something to get excited about.

    Let the man get himself dismembered by a gorilla as part of a bigger event with deadly races and feats of human strength.

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    The gorilla will use his insides as an Onahole when he’s finished with him.

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    Mike Tyson was going to fight a gorilla in his prime. The zoo keepers denied his request. While he can punch a hole in a human’s chest, that gorilla was going to rip his arms off with absolutely no effort.

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    Gorrillas weigh between 219 and 600 lbs

    According to Guiness World Records they can lift 1800 lbs.

    They have an arm span of over 8 ft.

    Feel free to try it but spend some time putting your estate on order, first.

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        Look, Jim-Bob needs to know whether he’s getting the contents of that trailer or not.

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      they can lift 1800 lbs.

      For a real-world comparison, ever try to move someone that’s passed out? That’s probably in the ballpark of 200lbs.

      Now imagine lifting six people at once.

      Current world records for a deadlift top out just shy of 1200 lbs.

      Feel free to try it but spend some time putting your estate on order, first.

      OP is definitely going to need a beefy insurance policy, a last will, and a pre-ordered coffin. Maybe they get ahead of the game and just give someone full power of attorney the day before. Assuming they stay in one piece, it’s possible that they could survive, but they’re going to need a new skeleton and a few vital organs to pull that off.

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      An orangutan could grab a man by his feet and head and tear him in half, honestly i kind of doubt that the biggest most well trained man could even take on a chimpanzee and win without a weapon.

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    Why bother fight a gorilla. Just cut the forest down and polute his environment. Steal his children put them in a zoo. Cut off his hands then and turn them into ash trays. We have already dominated the natural world now we are working on dominating future generations.

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      I’m sure this may work in maybe 1% of circumstances of super fit, tall, jacked, stupidly tough, experienced martial arts experts vs an “Average bear”

      Like the theory is sound, you could conceivably choke out a bear but it would be a motherfucking wild ride IF you can get into place to do it.

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        No way in hell. Bears have a ton of fur and very strong neck muscles. Nothing to choke. This is why we invented weapons in the first place.

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        Even in the case of you getting in place and choking it from behind, your arms are still going to be clawed. Good luck keeping that chokehold with your tendons shredded.

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        Like the info graphic shows … sure you can try to muscle your way to do one thing or another but usually at step two, the bear has already sunk their teeth into your and torn part of your body with is claws.

        While you were thinking of the first and second move, you’ve already lost a pint of blood, will lose more and you’re on your way to dying while the bear bites your arm and swings you back and forth like a rag doll.

        Look up the skeletal structure of a bears skull, you’ll notice two giant lumps on the back of it’s head. Those are two large muscles that operate the jaw … a massive jaw bone attached to dagger like teeth. It’s like a hyper fast bench vice with knives.

        Also think of the strongest man you can think of and know that a bear is probably four or five times stronger than that.

        So any time you think of confronting a bear, any man without weapons is in danger.

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        I don’t think I could do anything to a bear that would do more than make it angry. Maybe poke it in the eye or something, if it holds perfectly still while I do that. Even then, I would just be mauled to death by a one-eyed bear that suddenly remembers it has those giant claws right there.

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    “reflexes similar to my speed”

    Haha this is a classic French copypasta which is 20 years old and has just been translated by anon.

    It is even cited in the French “copypasta” Wikipedia article in the examples section: https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copypasta

    TL;DR: French and fake and gay

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    This made me think of that time my partner’s brother told me in complete earnest that he’d be able to jump off a skateboard going 20+ mph and run it out based solely off the fact that the fastest recorded human running speed is 28 mph and therefore he, an average fit 20 y.o. should be able to achieve 75% of that.

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    Mike Tyson, in his prime, wanted to fight a gorilla. Mike Tyson was told he would be killed and backed down.

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        If not for the ethics on the side of the gorilla in terms of making them fight a human, I legitimately do think we should let every single person who thinks they can 1v1 them try. Idiocy of this level voluntarily removing itself from the gene pool is a net good for the species.

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          If any human would have a slight chance, it would have been Mike Tyson.

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            Hot (and irrelevant take) but I disagree. Mike Tyson was actually kinda small for a heavyweight and I don’t think any person stands a chance of knocking out a gorilla (have you seen the way their skulls are built?!). I think if any human had a slight chance it would be a huge wrestling or BJJ champion that knows how to grapple and maybe, idk, choke out a larger opponent with superior technique.

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              Nah, anyone fighting a gorilla would be ins-ta-cooked no matter how strong or skilled they are. Their skin alone is like leather. Grappling a gorilla sounds like a death sentence. The best you could hope for is they think you are trying to play with them.

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                Grappling a gorilla is such an unbelievably bad idea lmao, no matter the BJJ steez. You’re right, things are fucking tanks, just flat out invulnerable to us hand-to-hand.

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                  Haha listen bro there are no good ideas against a gorilla. I’ve seen some pretty amazing grappling feats where a much much smaller person can submit their opponents… I think you physically just cannot knock out a gorilla though their skulls are too thick. Humans are uniquely vulnerable to getting KOd so I don’t think throwing punches or kicks is a valid strategy against a nonhuman

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              Hard disagree, the tendons are attached at different points then a human. This gives them a huge (mind mindbogglingly huge) strength advantage; something like 10 times stronger.

              Chimps have a similar advantage, whilst smaller than us, they are also significantly stronger.

              Human vs chimp, skill may make up for the strength disadvantage; but against a gorilla…not a chance, it would be like fighting a 5yo, sure they may have skill but nothing they could do would make up for the strength disadvantage.

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                Chimps are NOT stronger than humans, that is a common misconception. I posted a source for that somewhere else in this thread. Pound for pound they are stronger yes, but they are also significantly smaller than humans which more than balances it out. Attaching tendons differently isn’t a magic hack to increase strength; you could maybe increase torque but at the expense of travel distance of the affected joint (or vice versa).

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              I don’t think any human from Eddie Hall, to peak era Brian shaw ,or francis ngannou would stand a chance, but I would like to see these three together try and take on a single gorilla! Perhaps give then Tom Aspinall also!!

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              Go search up fighters like rampage Jackson or Kevin Randleman who regularly out muscled the very best grapplers, doing things like powerbombing their way out of submissions, then think how much smaller they are than a gorilla. Grappler is just as dead as a Boxer, Muay Thai fighter, or Karateka.

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              The way you beat a gorilla is through brains, not brawn. I would probably stand a better chance than Mike Tyson, because I know I don’t stand a chance head-on and would try tricks instead.

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        Yeah, 3 inches taller and 40 pounds lighter. You’re not gonna beat a gorilla being a quarter the weight. You could maybe outrun it, but you’ll just get wrecked if you try to fight head on.

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      Well, he might rape the gorilla, then everyone will spend the next 2 decades defending him…

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    I recently saw a gorilla skull. Note how small the brain is and how much extra bone there is to protect it. Punching this would hurt you more than the gorilla.

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      That was essentially what I was going to comment.

      You punch a skull like that, you’re breaking knuckles. It happens vs other humans as it is, no way do you punch a gorilla in the face and do even the same amount of damage your hand takes. You’re sure as hell not knocking it out.

      As entertainment, the idea is awesome, because I can imagine this relatively small guy squaring up against a silverback, all confident and executing the footwork perfectly, throwing a right hook just as hard as he can, and then there’s a spray of blood from his hand, followed by the gorilla turning him into steak tartare in a minute or less.

      Has dude never been to a zoo that has gorillas? Back in my prime, I would have been a heavyweight, and I feel like a damn twig next to a gorilla, no matter how much height I have on one. And I’ve never been that close to one. Seeing them twelve feet away was intimidating as hell.

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      You see those fin-like bones that rise up from the skull? All of that is filled with the muscle that closes the jaw - technically the purpose of these bones is for the muscle to attach to. One bite will slice and crush anything of you that is in his mouth.

      Oh, and humans lack a type of fast-twitch muscle fibre that gorillas (and pretty much all non-human mammals) have. This makes their muscles a lot more powerful than ours, no matter what training you do. They will tire faster, but thats probably only during the stomp-on-your-bloody-remains part of the fight.

      Oh, and their reaction speed is also faster.

      Basically, you have zero chance going mano a mano with a gorilla.

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        In prehistoric times the human hunting strategy was simply to follow an animal with a group of people until it tiers out, relying on superior endurance and cooperation skills. If it were possible for a human to simply defeat prime predators in one-on-one combat we would likely never have developed those skills in the first place. We are good at cooperating, precisely because we are so much weaker than gorillas.

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        Yeah, human muscle density is very low, relatively. We have higher myostatin levels than other great apes, likely from developing tools for hunting.

        I bet an average chimp would absolutely destroy any top ranked fighter.

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          IIRC the chimp thing is a bit overblown. I seem to remember that chimps are something like 1.3-1.5x stronger than humans per body mass. However male chimps weigh in at only around 40-70kg.

          These are average numbers, so assuming a top ranked fighter is significantly stronger per mass than the average human (my amateur experience suggests that a well trained man is around 1.3x as stronger than average per mass). Matching a top ranked heavyweight fighter (≈110 kg) to a higher-end chimp means the human is probably around (1.3 x 110 / 1.5 x 70) = 1.35 times stronger than the chimp.

          The top ranked fighter has a reach advantage, and while chimps are robust, I would almost call it absurd to suggest that a well landed kick from a top-ranked 110kg fighter would not injure a 70kg mammal.

          The chimp has the advantage of biting, but even in a ground-brawl, I have a hard time seeing a chimp with the strength of an average 105kg man standing much of a chance against a heavyweight MMA fighter, just by knowing how completely one-sided that fight would be between humans. I don’t think the bites of the chimp can overcome the large strength difference and massive technical difference (chimps are similar enough to humans that ordinary BJJ techniques can probably still be used). All this is assuming that the chimp is able to get within reach without catching a crippling strike first.

          Note that the above takes a higher end chimp vs. a top ranked fighter. Taking an average chimp and I definitely cannot see the chimp standing a chance. That would be like betting on an 85kg guy without fighting experience beating an MMA heavyweight. Even if the guy has a knife, he’ll probably be knocked out before even touching the fighter.

          Of course, being an average man myself, I would definitely be torn to shreds by even a lower-end chimp.

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        Honestly at this point i wanna convince them to try anyway. Let darwin sort them out

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        Thank you! And here is the key text;

        The presence of this ridge of bone indicates that there are exceptionally strong jaw muscles. The sagittal crest serves primarily for attachment of the temporalis muscle, which is one of the main chewing muscles.