The angry man can be seen confronting the vegan campaigners, who held up screens showing animal slaughter and used the megaphones to get their point across to shoppers.
One man took direct action against the protesters, grabbing a loudhailer from an activist named Ella Wild and breaking it on the ground before walking away.
Ms Wild posted a video of the incident on her Instagram, calling the shopper who retaliated “an angry customer”.
Most of the commenters sided with the shopper, with one saying: “Good man glad someone done it”.
grand, nobody needs to hear about your cause when they’re trying to shop, they aren’t all slaughterhouse proprietors (and most of them don’t care about eating the same stuff humans have done for hundreds of thousands of years)
I get what vegans are trying to do, I really do, but man are they tone deaf.
Pissing people off is not the way to get your point across, neither is blaring nin their ears with a megaphone.
Having said that, being violent against vegans also does not solve anything. I get the sentiment, but you’re onlyaking yourself look like a shit bag in front of the whole world.
Vegans: find better ways
We’re still right though
Easter lamb? Did Jesus love young sheep as much as he liked chocolate eggs?
You are mistaking him for Saint David.
Rubbish, I can tell the difference between Saint David and a lamb.
Because you couldn’t eat a whole Saint David in one sitting?
You walk into a shop with a megaphone and start taunting people through it, you deserve what you get, regardless of why you were doing it.
Yep. Don’t tell people how to live their lives.
Think I will actually
But that lifestyle contributes 15-20% of the entire planets GHG emissions. That lifestyle is selfishly ruining my planet.
unless you’re telling them to live their life without megaphones
“live and let liv- wait a minute!”
Yeah, unless their lives include murdering others.
They lose their right to peace, when what they cause is anything but.
So lamb is made out of people?
Yes. Lambs are in fact thinking, feeling individuals. They feel pain and don’t want to die, just like us.
Who are they murdering, sweetie?
Ah yes the holy and sacred temple of the supermarket. Under no circumstance can there be protest here, especially not protesting mass murder and incarceration, because it might hurt the feefees of the most important and precious class: The Consumer.
Respectfully, I disagree. She deserved to be asked to leave. When she refused, she deserved to be arrested for trespassing and probably harassment, too. That guy deserves some charges as well.
Retail workers aren’t paid enough to deal with some self important asshole who thinks that screaming at people through a megaphone is their right.
Protest the horrible meat industry by making their lives hell, don’t go after the consumer go after the source ffs, but that would mean actually putting in effort to your cause, which these megaphone blasting people don’t want to do.
These people are why us non vegans have an issue with vegans, most of you are chill people enjoying your life, but these pricks make you lot look insane and then you defend them because you agree with their message, but while you defend their message, you also defend their actions!
Start holding these people accountable for making the rest of you look bad, I know most of you vegans are good people, you don’t deserve to be made to look like idiots.
Agreed, in general. As someone who has worked retail, I’d just ask them to leave once and then call the police. There’s no need to mediate this situation.
Yeah, if one were really going to support militant action against the meat industry, it should be way higher up the chain where the decision makers and infrastructure are. There are a lot of bigger consequences to doing that, which is why timid people usually just harass consumers.
Also, I’m not a vegan. I don’t advocate for harassing people that don’t share my ideology, either. I’m just opposed to vigilante “justice.”
Also, I’m not a vegan.
Yeah I thought you’d pick me up on that phrasing, I was using the more general version of you, talking to vegans as a whole and not the you for you specifically lol.
I think people have just had enough of these loud people and the cops are obviously not doing anything and trespassing these people doesn’t work, look at that Aussie chick who keeps getting banned from shops for her horrible style of protesting, but she keeps on going back.
Sometimes these people need to learn the hard way by their own choices and sometimes that comes in the form of a pissed off customer ripping a megaphone out of their hands.
Is it the right thing to do legally? Probably not, but it put a stop to their harrassment of others, they just got upset that they actually had to face some form of consequence for their actions.
Sorry, I wasn’t trying to be pedantic. I really thought you were stating that I was a vegan who was arbitrarily taking the side of another vegan. I retract that, for whatever that’s worth.
I agree that repeat offenders need to see some real consequences. It’s not okay to harass other people.
I just feel like learning the hard way needs to be handcuffs, court dates, and then bars. If the government doesn’t step up, yeah, citizens will start taking things into their own hands, which comes with a lot of risks, especially when people disagree on what’s considered acceptable behavior. It’s only a matter of time before more significant violence occurs.
Nah you’re all good, I wrote that part weirdly.
We’re living in really tough times atm and peoples fuses are a lot shorter than they used to be, I do believe that we’re all suffering some mental health issues that came up from the pandemic and the lockdowns that we need to work on as a society, shits gotten worse since then and it’s getting hard to keep your cool and remain civil, even I’m having a hard time not overreacting to things.
I honestly would probably have ripped the megaphone from them as well.
Too much insanity is happening all at once.
Retail workers aren’t paid enough to deal with some self important asshole who thinks that screaming at people through a megaphone is their right.
That’s what the security guard is there for.
If your stores lucky enough to have one, mine doesn’t, so we have to deal with this type of shit.
Really? I haven’t been to a supermarket without one in years. Perhaps it’s a Liverpool thing.
Ohh nah I’m in Aus lol, but we got our own version of this shit.
Its bullshit that we don’t have a security guard, but the billion dollar company doesn’t want to have its own security, so if the place the shop is in has security you’re fine, if not, tough luck bitches.
A security guard in a store? What is this, America?
Liverpool. Contrary to popular belief, there are quite a few thieves about.
Meanwhile, I regularly can’t find any employee at the self-checkout for minutes.
It’s always great when people who aren’t trying to change things explain to us (vegans, environmentalists, feminists etc.) that we do not protest the right way ™ and that we don’t have the correct targets/methods.
Usually this is a byproduct of people not wanting to be bothered changing anything and pointing the finger towards other actors:
While I agree that only going after end-of-chain customers is unlikely to create at-scale change in the
meatrape, torture and murder industry, it still has some effects.
Also these actions are a good way to build a community sentiment for the people included and incrementally go after other types of action.
For example, in the Extinction Rebellion movement, lots of activists started with legal protests, then illegal protests and road blocking and eventually a few of them built up to direct action against carbon-emitting industrial sites.
You also have to understand that the risk level is not the same when you go after customers and when you go after the industries.Retail workers aren’t paid enough to deal with some self important asshole who thinks that screaming at people through a megaphone is their right.
They aren’t paid enough, period. I only hope that the activists only went after the customers and not the workers (which seems to be the case here, otherwise the article would probably have mentionned it).
Protest the horrible meat industry by making their lives hell, don’t go after the consumer go after the source ffs, but that would mean actually putting in effort to your cause, which these megaphone blasting people don’t want to do.
See higher. Also, as a general principle, fuck your opinion of what it means to put effort in a cause. Being in a place where most people dislike/hate your cause in a world where other activists have been assaulted and injured by assholes is already a fucking effort.
These people are why us non vegans have an issue with vegans, most of you are chill people enjoying your life, but these pricks make you lot look insane and then you defend them because you agree with their message, but while you defend their message, you also defend their actions!
Nah, be honest at some point.
We vegans are not chill people enjoying out lives, we are decent people trying to function in a dystopian world where the industrial mass murder of hundreds of billions of sentient beings every year is considered normal in the name of culture and/or pleasure.
The root of non-vegan opposition is the same as the root of big-car-lovers and masculinists opposition: acknowledging the truth would be too hard because it would mean acknowledging how much suffering you have caused. And it’s not entirely your fault, we’ve all been raised the same way, made to consider this was normal.
So any movement asking you to reconsider puts your brain in a very uncomfortable position, to which you react with rejection. And because no one wants to look like an asshole, you pick the group you deem most extreme and play the “I have no issue with vegans, but these vegans are a bit much and do a disservice to the cause” card - which is universally used to oppose societal progress whatever the topic.Start holding these people accountable for making the rest of you look bad, I know most of you vegans are good people, you don’t deserve to be made to look like idiots.
Once again, thanks a lot for sharing your wisdom about a movement you are not part of. We all were really waiting for your input to decide how to treat our allies.
Edits: spelling
Cheers for proving my point mate.
So I prove your point by expressing my disagreement and providing arguments? Effective tactics, I can’t argue with that.
If I made you feel better about yourself and more sure that you’re right I missed my target but you’re welcome anyway.
Have a nice one.Nah, by being a dick about it, plenty of ways to express your disagreement and provide arguments without attacking me. But hey, I still stand by my original post that started our interaction, most vegans a good chill people who don’t deserve to be made to look bad.
See your other comment:
You walk into a shop with a megaphone and start taunting people through it, you deserve what you get, regardless of why you were doing it.
In my opinion you lost the right of not being talked to in a dickish way when you wrote this. If according to you physically assaulting people who try to make the world better is justified, I’m not gonna answer politely and wait the slap on the other cheek.
If most of them are than the minority is in fact quite vocal.
So I prove your point by expressing my disagreement and providing arguments?
No, by being ridiculous.
Thank you for this argumented and useful answer. Have a nice day.
Nah. If you’re shouting at someone through a megaphone, you don’t deserve that level of civility.
She deserved to be served with the appropriate charges, given due process, and put in jail/prison for the amount of time prescribed by law as determined by the court. Vigilanteism isn’t democracy. I agree she’s being antisocial here. So is that guy. It doesn’t matter how much worse her behavior is. His was still bad, too. He made the situation worse by escalating and violating laws.
She wasn’t hurt. Her megaphone was destroyed. She deserved it.
It’s good that no one was hurt. Taking something from someone by force is still robbery, even if it’s a thing they’re using to harass other people. She committed a crime and should face the penalties prescribed by law. I’m not defending her. I agree she’s worse than that guy, but he committed a crime, too. They’re not mutually exclusive. It’s not a one side versus the other issue. It’s not okay to settle violent disputes outside the law. If people are angry that the government isn’t doing its job, they should direct their anger that way rather than use it to prop up someone who lost their temper over a previously nonviolent situation.
You pay people to murder animals so you can feast on their dead flesh. And you’re only getting a megaphone warning. Seems like meat eaters deserve even worse.
Ah yes. Don’t kill anything with a face. Except meat eaters.
I don’t mean that. I’m just saying one should be thankful vegans are friendly and not dangerous.
The person I replied to implied that the vegans that are protesting should get even worse treatment.
And people are celebrating that selfish and evil opinion.
All I implied was if you take a megaphone to a shop and abuse random people, you get what you deserve. You were the one that equated “get what you deserve” to be " get even worse treatment" which I’m going to take as " deserve worse than death" which I may be wrong, but I don’t think I am this time.
There are consequences to actions, currently there’s a shit load of people who think they can do what they want and not face any consequences, then when consequences come for them, they go online and cry.
they fucked around and then they found out.
There are consequences to actions, currently there’s a shit load of people who think they can do what they want and not face any consequences, then when consequences come for them, they go online and cry.
Yes and if the roles are switched and those consequences are done upon people because of their selfish desire for dead flesh, you would be ok with that?
If they were standing in supermarket with a megaphone screaming abuse at random people, then yes.
It was the action they did I have an issue with, not the message.
And they have an issue with the actions of others.
Animals are dying because of meat eaters that are fucking around. And now some of them are finding out and still, they get shit on.
Get over it. Just walk away if a megaphone annoys you. It’s a protest.
It’s funny how the attacker has a super fat ass and the vegan is healthily skinny 😄 This is so cliché.
Using a megaphone indoors in a store should considered assault. My child and spouse both have sensitive hearing, if someone was within a couple meters of them and shouted into a megaphone it would instantly reduce my child to tears and cause pain and distress, and my spouse would probably drop anything they were holding from the shock and pain of it.
You sound like animals that are getting slaughtered. Except they are in even more pain and end up murdered.
Maybe if people stop the murderous selfishness towards animals, people don’t have to pick up a megaphone to educate you.
So your solution is innocents being harmed is to harm more innocents. Nice.
Harming is a big word of course when you can just walk away from the megaphone. But I don’t really know how playing the victim works so I don’t know.
IF YOU GUYS ARENT NICE TO ME IM GOING TO CONTINUE THE MASS SLAUGHTER OF SENTIENT LIFE AND DESTRUCTION OF THE PLANET 😤
Luv lamb. Ate megaphones.
Assholes all around.
No-one is gaining the moral high ground there.
The guy doing the smashing seems to have it.
Not really, he looks like a psychotic prick.
Why can’t this shit happen where I work? It would add some excitement to my boring job.
easter lamb is fucking insane. you’re celebrating the death of the lamb of god by eating one?? stick with ham
When I used to go to mass, we’d be told we were eating the body of Jesus and drinking his blood. And they were not as delicious as lamb.
Are you part of Jesus’s vampire coven now?
That’d definitely be cooler than the reality.
I was born in a European country much further to the east, escaped when there were soldiers on the street, ended up arriving in Britain not far from Whitby and have issues with sunlight, so…
If you have issues with sunlight, Britain is the right place to be
I think I’ve passed through there by car once. It’s either the country with the bullet holes in the neighbouring houses, or the one where the police pull you over for a bribe.
It’s both!
Carnists get so fucking mad when you point out that they’re eating literal dead babies. Fucking snowflakes. You don’t like being reminded you’re eating the corpse of an adorable baby? Well, maybe you should stop doing it then, no one is forcing you to eat animals, you can literally just not do it
I don’t find sheep adorable. They’re also quite smelly. Cats however, are super adorable. That’s why I don’t eat them. Sharks? Ugly af, right into the soup pot.
Mushrooms are adorable though. You are a monster if you eat mushrooms.
Have you considered it’s your condescending tone and obnoxious tactics that annoy people? He certainly wasn’t right to smash up the megaphone - but I’m willing to bet the “carnists” really do understand they’re eating dead animals and literally don’t care.
Have you considered it’s your condescending tone and obnoxious tactics that annoy people?
It isn’t. It doesn’t matter how vegans act, carnists are annoyed about our very existence. You can pretend you’re only annoyed at the “obnoxious” vegans, but I’ve seen enough carnist rage to know it doesn’t matter how kindly a vegan tries to advocate for veganism, it won’t work, and will very likely get the vegan yelled at. Seriously, look up Earthling Ed’s YouTube channel, watch how patient and kind he is with the carnists he talks to, then think about the fact that this sweet, kind, gentle man has been punched in the face more than once by people angry that he’s a vegan arguing for veganism.
Also see your need to come set me straight two whole days after I made my comment. I’d forgotten about that thread and the comment I’d made in it, but you read it and just had to comment, an entire two days later.
If you try to advocate your ideology to random strangers going about their day, you will get yelled at. Doesn’t matter if you’re advocating for veganism or for Jehovah’s Witnesses. I’ve never once yelled at a friend or acquaintance for talking about veganism during casual conversation.
Most full fledged carnivores I know, which are very few, are the most mellow and relaxed people I’ve ever met. They genuinely don’t care what other people eat. They would get, rightly, annoyed if someone was causing them hearing damage while they were out doing errands, however.
In my neighborhood a butcher shop is next to a Buddhist temple, and they get along just fine.
Most full fledged carnivores I know
Are you hanging out with tigers or something? Humans aren’t carnivores.
They can be if they make the choice, but its a difficult diet to pull off since sugar and carbs are everywhere.
But yes, of the people who are eating only ASF, they are very chill and relaxed, in my experience. Like we don’t hold meetings talking about protesting the green grocers.
Ah yes, tone policing, the least snowflakey debate tactic.
I’m not dismissing the argument because of tone, I’m pointing out why people find this annoying. Do you not find it annoying when condescended to?
Fucken well deserved
A third asked: “So they are allowed to cause a disruption about something that affects his livelihood, but he isn’t allowed to retaliate?”
What about disrupting the lambs life? These people just want eat children without thinking, good for her for speaking out.
Good man.
