Donkey is from Pinocchio. The children on Pleasure Island were being turned into talking donkeys.
donkey doesn’t tie into any fairytales
The donkey, therefore, was brought up and grew bigger, and his ears grew up beautifully high and straight. He was, however, of a merry disposition, jumped about, played and had especial pleasure in music, so that he went to a celebrated musician and said, “Teach me thine art, that I may play the lute as well as thou dost.” (The Donkey by the Brothers Grimm)
It costs $0 to lie on the internet, reminder.
Didn’t even assume it was a lie. Just figured anon was ignorant.
That is also my default assumption.
The “donkey” in the story is able to “throw off his ass’s skin” and is a human underneath. Definitely not the same character.
And Shrek is Scottish compared to almost every other fairy tale ogre lol. There is no meaningful point to be made there.
The point is that there’s no reason to think that this particular talking donkey character from a Grimm’s story inspired Donkey in Shrek in any way.
and the donkey in the bible was only temporarily vocal in order to speak a specific message to one dude. again, no conclusion to be found here, only to point out that OP is misinformed.
I didn’t take the OP as being serious at all.
nor did i. nevertheless that is the premise this hypothetical works under. just being silly and exploring the relationships of these media as an exercise.
TBF, I wouldn’t put it past a 4Chan OP to be ignorant either
You know, this did tickle my curiosity, cause I also did not know what fairy tale Donkey was supposed to be from, and I’ve heard that he wasn’t from any fairytale in the past too. Thank you for this, I have a copy of Grimm’s Fairy Tales at home, I’ll need to check this story out when I get back.
yay! i love the brothers grimm
It costs $0 to lie on the internet, reminder.
Oh, no, no, no.
It’s the opposite.
It’s gives “you” monies to lie on the inter of webs (well, it can give you money, but some go for glory too & let the megacorps get the gold pile). Every shitty thing is monetized.Thats why we lemmy over here.
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Ok, but I want to see sacred texts where a donkey and a dragon get it on, detailed descriptions, not how the movies just skipped that part.
The internet has… supplemented the missing part, I’m certain.
It has, and it showed us the story in many multiverses. We are so blessed that we have internet & I don’t have to go to the local library & look at furry scrolls.
I recall it being pretty descriptive with the foreplay in the film
Slow down, baby, please. I believe it’s healthy to get to know someone over a long perriod of time. Just call me old-fashioned. {Laughs} -I don’t want to rush into a physical relationship. I’m not emotionally ready for a commitment of, uh, this - - Magnitude really is the word I’m looking for. Magnitude- - Hey, that is unwanted physical contact. Hey, what are you doing? Okay, okay. Let’s just back up a little and take this one step at a time. We really should get to know each other first as friends or pen pals. I’m on the road a lot, but I just love receiving cards - - I’d really love to stay, but - - Don’t do that! That’s my tail! That’s my personal tail. You’re gonna tear it off. I don’t give permission - - What are you gonna do with that? Hey, now. No way. No! No! No, no! No. No, no, no. No! Oh! {Growls} {Roaring} {Gasps} -Hi, Princess! -It talks! -Yeah, it’s getting him to shut up that’s the trick.
No it means that Shrek is biblical canon
Why did somebody take a perfectly good photo of Luigi and change it to Shrek?
I still like the theory that Donkey is a Lost Boy escaped from Treasure Island before the full transformation took over and he lost his voice.
So the little boy fucked a dragon?
I suppose its not much more fucked up than interspecies donkey/dragon coitus, but still.
We don’t really know how old Donkey is, he may very well have ‘grown up’ by then.
But yeah; basically a human cosplaying as a donkey (with the help of some magic) fucked a dragon…
Eh, no worse than the original ending of It
A fellow Theorist, eh?
Good to see you. :)
Shrek’s based on a book with a plot structure only vaguely resembling the movie, but sharing an identical moral message. Donkey and shrek are in the book, so donkey and shrek are in the movie. I don’t think it went past that.
Why was Donkey in the book, then, smart fella?
Because the author drew them
Oh okay. No further questions.
You must be fun at parties
Not particularly, but I’m the only one that brings narcan, so they keep me around
Narcan, a live saver for any party
If you need shrek to tell you the bible is a fairy tale then brother I have news for you
Fine. I need you to prove that the universe wasn’t created in 7 days and that ribs don’t spontaneously turn into women. (Talking, burning bushes are totally a thing though. I have seen one.)
Edit: Didn’t express the /s enough I suppose. Flipping the burden of truth is all too common in some very strange discussions I have had in the past.
The Bible and Shrek are both human mythology. Stories we’ve created, learned, and lived that encapsulate aspects of the lived human experience.
Yeah but one of them is a good moral example and the other is the bible.
one is a good moral example and the other is a medieval sex guide
Always was 🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀
the brothers grimm literally has a story about a talking donkey anon is a filthy filthy liar https://www.grimmstories.com/en/grimm_fairy-tales/the_donkey
Plenty of donkeys in Aesop’s fables, too, if those count.
I think it’s origin is actually the same as Shrek and Fiona. In the book “Shrek!” there is a donkey that accompanies Shrek to a castle where he meets a princess uglier than him.
Source: Wikipedia
If you needed signs from others to figure out that the bible is full of shit, you can’t think for yourself. I told my mom I didn’t think the story of Jesus was plausible at age 8.
Why isn’t it plausible
You’re joking, surely.
No? It’s a bit silly to claim miracles don’t happen because they aren’t physically possible. That’s what makes then so miraculous
If something isnt physically possible then it won’t happen.
Unless there is a God and the person performing them just so happens to be God
Virgin Birth? Walked on Water? Caused a demon to leave a person’s body and go out into a bunch of feral hogs that he then sent over the side of a cliff with a few words? Raised a guy from the dead? Raised himself from the dead? Caused his followers to speak every language by touching them with ghost powers?
I would consider all of these events individually implausible, just for starters.
Oh maybe my DnD deities weren’t crazy enough
Yeah the deep lore for a lot of real-world religions is WILD
I would consider all of these events individually implausible, just for starters.
If they were plausible, then there wouldn’t be a religion surrounding the guy.
Religious figures can, and do, exist without the need for “miracles”. Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha), Confucius, and Socrates are all venerated for their philosophy rather than any particular supernatural aspects of their existence. Even in Christianity, the back half of The Gospels are just letters distributed among the apostles focused on building up the Catholic Church as an institution. The miraculous Jesus was something religious scholars had to lobby as canonical for centuries before it was officially recognized. And the Gnostic movement - the really whoo-whoo side of Christianity that hinged on some even more esoteric beliefs - never maintained the kind of following that the more secularized “Jesus is a philosopher king we should emulate” attitude of subsequent Christian groups.
The miraculous Jesus was something religious scholars had to lobby as canonical for centuries before it was officially recognized.
This is just flat out false. The gospels were still written within the first century and even then, the oldest letter - The epistle to the Galatians - still testifies that Jesus rose from the dead.
Galatians 1:1-5, 12, 15-16 ESV [1] Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead— [2] and all the brothers who are with me, To the churches of Galatia: [3] Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, [4] who gave himself for our sins to deliver us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, [5] to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.
[12] For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.
[15] But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace, [16] was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone;
(1 Thessalonians is a contestant for the oldest, but still)
1 Thessalonians 1:10 ESV
[10] and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
The letters carry a miraculous nature
1 Corinthians 15:3-8 ESV
[3] For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, [4] that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, [5] and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. [6] Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. [7] Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. [8] Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me.
If you got rid of the Gospels and revelation in the New Testament, the Faith remains mainly the same.
But that’s besides the point, trying to claim miracles can’t happen because it’s impossible is an oxymoron. If it was able to happen without supernatural means, it wouldn’t be a miracle.
Its just not
Is that the official render of Donkey? That’s fucking terrifying.
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