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  • BB84@mander.xyzOPtoScience Memes@mander.xyzvibes-based astrophysics
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    The concept needs to be able to predict and explain new observations, or else it has no utility and is still essentially just a placeholder.

    They first came up with it to explain galactic rotation curves. After that, many new observations came in and the model successfully explained them. To name a few: bullet cluster dynamics, gravitational lensing around galaxies, baryon acoustic oscillation.

    Like, relativity, you have to accept and account for or GPS wouldn’t work nearly as accurately as they do.

    It is neat that general relativity is used in GNSS, but I’d bet that GNSS could still be invented even if we don’t know general relativity. Engineers would probably have came up with a scheme to empirically calibrate the time dilation effect. It would be harder, but compared to the complexity of GNSS as a whole not that much harder.

    There’s no real value in having an explanation (other than personal satisfaction, i.e. vibes) for something unless that explanation helps you to make predictions or manipulate objective reality in some way.

    You can make a lot of predictions with Lambda CDM. But yeah they’re not going to help anyone manipulate objective reality. Even so, >95% of math, astronomy, and probably many other fields of research don’t help anyone manipulate reality either. It’s harsh to say they have no value, but perhaps you’re right.

    At least let me say this: finding explanations to satisfy personal curiosity (doing it for vibes, as you put it) is different from projecting personal feelings onto objective understanding of reality (the vibes-based astrophysics I was referring to in the meme).







  • But it is a model we invented no? To explain the astrophysical and cosmological observations.

    Among all those observations, a commonality is that it looks like there is something that behaves like matter (as opposed to vacuum or radiation) and interact mostly via gravity (as opposed to electromagnetically, etc.). That’s why we invented dark matter.

    The “it is unsuited” opinion in this meme is to poke at internet commentators who say that there must be an alternate explanation that does not involve new matter, because according to them all things must reflect light otherwise it would feel off.

    Once you believe dark matter exists, you still need to come up with an explanation of what that matter actually is. That’s a separate question.

    (I’m not trying to make fun of people who study MOND or the like of that. just the people who non-constructively deny dark matter based on vibes.)






  • This is a very fair take, but I’d say dark matter is harder to falsify, but not totally unfalsifiable.

    You can’t see it, true. But what makes sight so special? We can’t smell stars either. You just need to sense dark matter in some other way. Namely gravity! We have seen the way visible matter orbit, and that points to dark matter. We have seen gravitational lensing due to dark matter. Hopefully soon we’ll observe gravitational waves well enough to sense dark matter around the regions the waves are being emitted from.

    Most individual dark matter models are falsifiable (and many have already been falsified) through non-gravitational means too. People have been building all sorts of detectors. The problem with this is that detectors are expensive and there are always more models beyond any detector’s reaches.