Violent resistance has failed for decades and only made the situation worse for Palestinians one defeat after the next.
I would disagree strongly - Fatah leveraged violent resistance into a near-victory, shot down only by a hair’s breadth in an assassination and Israeli internal politiking.
Hamas, which has been supported by Israel since the start, on the other hand, has not been able to leverage violent resistance into any sort of improvement in their situation.
The issue is not violence - it’s doubtful that anything other than violence could stop the Israeli state’s genocidal ambitions. The issue is that Hamas is incompetent at (or uninterested in) anything other than chest-thumping and suppressing internal Palestinian opposition.
Unfortunately, the immense corruption of Fatah and likewise the discrediting of the PA by Israeli bad-faith negotiation means there are no good options at present. All that can be done is to support the least-bad of them - and, of course, to stop fucking supporting Israel.
Fatah leveraged violent resistance into a near-victory
Are you talking about the first Intifada? That was mostly peaceful protest and riots throwing stones. It was somewhat violent, but nothing compared to the second intifada with its endless suicide bombings.
The first intifada started out with lots of grass roots organization independent of PLO/Fatah leadership.
Fatah had conducted violent „resistance“ including in Jordan (black September) and Lebanon (civil war) for decades and were repeatedly defeated.
only by a hair’s breadth in an assassination and Israeli internal politiking.
Arafat could have said at any time, I accept the offered peace deal. Or he could have made a counter offer, which he never did. Palestinian leadership has in fact never made a peace treaty offer, as in an actual map and detailed conditions.
Hamas is incompetent at (or uninterested in) anything other than chest-thumping and suppressing internal Palestinian opposition
This so much.
immense corruption of Fatah and PA
Yes, these fucks are sitting pretty and getting rich of foreign aid. They should be building an actual economy and institutions for the Palestinian people.
Palestinians have shitty political leadership. The insane Islamist authoritarians of Hamas or the corrupt Fatah police state.
Palestinians deserve better and know it. I believe there will be reflection and change once the war in Gaza has ended.
there are no good options at present
Hamas lets the hostages go and surrenders or goes into exile is the best option for the war to end.
stop fucking supporting Israel
I support Israel‘s existence and their right to defend themselves. I don’t support their government or many of the policies and actions.
I would disagree strongly - Fatah leveraged violent resistance into a near-victory, shot down only by a hair’s breadth in an assassination and Israeli internal politiking.
Hamas, which has been supported by Israel since the start, on the other hand, has not been able to leverage violent resistance into any sort of improvement in their situation.
The issue is not violence - it’s doubtful that anything other than violence could stop the Israeli state’s genocidal ambitions. The issue is that Hamas is incompetent at (or uninterested in) anything other than chest-thumping and suppressing internal Palestinian opposition.
Unfortunately, the immense corruption of Fatah and likewise the discrediting of the PA by Israeli bad-faith negotiation means there are no good options at present. All that can be done is to support the least-bad of them - and, of course, to stop fucking supporting Israel.
Are you talking about the first Intifada? That was mostly peaceful protest and riots throwing stones. It was somewhat violent, but nothing compared to the second intifada with its endless suicide bombings.
The first intifada started out with lots of grass roots organization independent of PLO/Fatah leadership.
Fatah had conducted violent „resistance“ including in Jordan (black September) and Lebanon (civil war) for decades and were repeatedly defeated.
Arafat could have said at any time, I accept the offered peace deal. Or he could have made a counter offer, which he never did. Palestinian leadership has in fact never made a peace treaty offer, as in an actual map and detailed conditions.
This so much.
Yes, these fucks are sitting pretty and getting rich of foreign aid. They should be building an actual economy and institutions for the Palestinian people.
Palestinians have shitty political leadership. The insane Islamist authoritarians of Hamas or the corrupt Fatah police state.
Palestinians deserve better and know it. I believe there will be reflection and change once the war in Gaza has ended.
Hamas lets the hostages go and surrenders or goes into exile is the best option for the war to end.
I support Israel‘s existence and their right to defend themselves. I don’t support their government or many of the policies and actions.
Not you personally, I mean that as in “The option is for the US to stop supporting Israel”