• Soup@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Fuck that, anything “AI” worth anything is just algorithms we already had that were rebranded to take advantage of stupid people. My life is going just fine without its nonsense, thanks.

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      9 days ago

      Fuck that, anything “AI” worth anything is just algorithms we already had that were rebranded to take advantage of stupid people.

      While what you describe does happen (and are the worst of the worst examples of shitty unnecessary bullshit) LLMs are not algorithms we already had.

      Things like ChatGPT/Copilot are novel tech. You might not like them, and they can hallucinate answers, but it is new.

      My life is going just fine without its nonsense, thanks.

      The theory is that you will be left behind, not that your life is missing anything.

      Picture the native Americans before colonialism. Their lives were going just fine, but then a money addicted hyper “efficient” type of culture appeared and they weren’t able to raise armies and build weapons at the rate necessary to keep their way of life.

      If you + LLM can do your job more efficiently than you alone then by supply/demand your value as an employee is going down by refusing to adapt, and your salary will reflect your comparatively lower output than your peers.

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        8 days ago

        worth anything” were the words I used. I didn’t say LLMs weren’t new, but right now they’re just untrustworthy and people keep using them as huge crutches so they don’t need to actually learn how to do the most basic elements of their jobs. As far as doing my job goes, I produce better quality work at a good pace, which I know better because I actually did the work, because I bother to learn new skills and really understand how it all works.

        Also what a wild example to use colonized native Americans with the US and all its failures in quality of life(the pretty propaganda does not make the senseless poverty go away), education, and human rights. “Look, AI is like a giant shit hole and you’re just not keeping up!”

        Buddy, if I die in however many decades being able to say I was an active, if sometimes less efficient, participant in my own life and projects then I’ll be dying happy.

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          worth anything” were the words I used. I didn’t say LLMs weren’t new, but right now they’re just untrustworthy and people keep using them as huge crutches so they don’t need to actually learn how to do the most basic elements of their jobs

          It’s a tool. I can respect that to you the tool doesn’t seem helpful, but there are many people who are skilled at their jobs but also have to write a lot of boilerplate maybe for unit testing, maybe for writing REST endpoints, but there will be a task where the LLM outpaces you and you just refuse to use it to find out. There’s a for what and when to use it, and in those situations you unfortunately are already outpaced.

          You’re certainly right it shouldn’t be used as a crutch for every type of work, but you’re wrong that not ever using it is more efficient than using it contextually.

          You will be left behind. Laughing at juniors who over rely in it is putting your guard down. Juniors become seniors with time and experience.

          Also what a wild example to use colonized native Americans with the US and all its failures in quality of life(the pretty propaganda does not make the senseless poverty go away), education, and human rights. “Look, AI is like a giant shit hole and you’re just not keeping up!”

          Why’s that wild? I chose it for that exact reason.

          AI means that you and I have to be more efficient or we will be left behind.

          Being more productive doesn’t benefit you or me in any way, except not losing our jobs. Our bosses are just sucking more money out of us.

          But AI has landed and is colonizing us. Plugging your ears and refusing to engage with it isn’t a historically successful response.

          If you don’t want to use AI going forward, then we need to organize to ban it. We can’t individually just insist “I’m more productive without it!” because expertise is difficult for non experts doing the hiring to sus out, but productivity is easy to track via metric.

          It’s a shit world out here, why do you think I’m disagreeing?

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      9 days ago

      No, it very much isn’t. AI is a mass data analysis tool with vastly greater capabilities than any human counterpart.

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        8 days ago

        And then it hallucinates. What part of that reads as “AI” to you anyway? It’s just searching through text and photos to pull stuff that seems to be related based on search parameters which is something search engines have been doing for years without being called AI.

        Look, I’m not at all saying we’ve reached a ceiling yet but calling any of this “AI” right now is just incorrect. Even the LLMs are spending too much time telling you what you want to hear because they don’t actually know what’s happening.