• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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      Common on contrarian and alternative platform as this particular topic has been seeded by russia psyops against russian oil alternative.

      This is why germany shut down all its reactors and went back to burning lignite coal when nordstream was blown up by a ln Ukrainian triggerman.

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      Didn’t think people smart enough to use Lemmy would fall for american nuclear lobbying.

      Guys come on you can’t really think nuclear is better then renewables and everyone who thinks differently is having an agenda.

      If something like this ends up in my feed I wanna talk to the people and see how they ended up with such “interesting” positions, that’s all.

      (For what I can tell most are Americans and influenced by local consent manufacturing)

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        I wouldn’t say nuclear is better than renewables. I would say it’s a good at providing base load as we transition from fossil fuels over to renewables. That’s all.

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        Ah yes, the great and powerful American nuclear lobby… That hasn’t sold a new reactor in 30 years.

        Most people support nuclear because it’s the best base load generation method, and that can’t be replaced by renewables.

        You’re literally less than a degree of separation from the “nuclear is a Chinese psyop” people.

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          Plutonium in nuclear waste has a half lifetime of 24 000 years

          The first structure which is counted as begin of civilization is was like 11 000 years ago.

          Advocating against them is not automatically russion propaganda bro.

          Being weary of companies who assure the public this will all be taken care of, just let them profit now is basic human sense.

          (And don’t come at me again with how bad fossils are, I advocate for stopping to use them to, it was just not the topic of the meme)

          You trying to put me in a drawer with conspiracy theorists is saying more about you then about me

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    I thought this was going to be about how many turkeys you could cook directly using the reactor heat

    my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

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      Be about 3x that number. Reactors are about 33-40% efficient. So a 1000 MW electric plant is running at 3000 MW thermal. Would be relatively easy too. Just a gigantic steam heated oven. So 7.5 million turkeys, enough to feed 90 million people or about a quarter of the US.

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        I doubt an oven needs 2400W continuous to keep at temperature. Also a single large oven will be far more efficient than 7.5 million separate ovens.

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    I’d like to see this redone using energy instead of power. E.g is 2,400 watts during the initial heatup or when the oven reaches stable temperature? They’re not taking into account the time change either.

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      2400W is typical maximum power for an oven. If you run that continuous you’ll have very crispy (black) turkey

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    If you cook me a 15lb turkey in 3 1/2 hours that burnt dry shit is going in the trash.

    • Dude standing by a smoker with 10 lbs of pork ribs for the past 4 hours
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      I bet half the turkeys cooked go to waste one way or another (ruined while cooking, spoiled leftovers, etc). And people totally overeat.

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    With Vogtle expansion costing over $15B per gw, that is $6000+ per fed person, before counting the cost of importing uranium from Russia.

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      6000$ to “feed” every X minutes that it takes to microwave to microwave a turkey. This plant cook 2.5 million turkey in parrallel.

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        or security costs, including the promised good time of civil war that get’s floated around.

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    in a country where half of the presidents cant even pronounce nukular…and the only usecase for nukular is make some machines like openAI work cheaper. go eat the nukular waste george.

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    Now calculate how many generations of turkeys will be eaten till the waste stops killing people

    Edit: can’t believe how many people here are falling for nuclear. Have you all learned nothing from what companies did with fossil fuels? Taking the profits and leaving humanity with a fucked up world? And now you are falling for the same stuff with nuclear again, I assume this is the discourse in america which is so scewed? Here in Europe people are not that naive… Even the ones in France, which is quite into nuclear are reasonable and see the waste problem normally.

    And here on Lemmy people really come and say “nuclear waste isn’t dangerous, it didn’t kill anyone”

    Wtf people?!

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      Nuclear waste is indeed a problem, however it is a contained problem that can be isolated. Oil’s byproduct are distributed into the atmosphere and are killing every living thing on earth. Do you know how many people die every year due to pollution from burning fossil fuels? It’s orders of magnitude worse. The fear of nuclear waste, while absolutely an issue, is so incredibly blown out of proportion compared to the silent killer that is fossil fuels.

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        You people always come and compare to oil.

        THATS A STRAWMAN NOONE IS ARGUING FOR OIL

        yes short term the rising temp by climate gases is prob worse, but you need to compare it to actual alternatives, like wind, water, sun -.-

        Everyone fucking knowes that oil needs to be stopped from being used better yesterday then today, but this doesn’t make nuclear any better

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            Its saying Corona isn’t dangerous because cancer is worse.

            When the actual comparison should be made between corona and getting a corona antibody shot.

            Sure you can compare nuclear with fossils and will see: both lots of downsides bad, we shouldn’t use them. The problem is when you stop there, don’t compare it to wind, solar, water, and then go around hyping nuclear.

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              I specifically pointed out that nuclear energy has its issues. Holy crap, you just accused others of strawmanning when they aren’t, then strawman yourself.

              We’re done with this conversation. Nothing productive will come of it. Learn to have a productive conversation instead of stifling others.

              Cheers.

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        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_by_death_toll

        Quite a few (if you remember not even a fraction oft its life time is over by now)

        Also: radiation doesn’t kill right away. Often you live 10 more years with weird symptoms and die from something like heart attack, so your death isn’t counted as “caused by radiation exposure” but as “died from cancer” or “heart attack”

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          Yes, radiation can kill people decades later, but so does pollution from burning fossil fuel. BTW, your link talks about nuclear accidents, not the number of people killed by nuclear wastes produced normally, which is what you claimed is killing people. A bit of a misdirection on your part, isn’t it?

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            No one is arguing for fossils lol That’s a strawman

            And yes, I just gave you the first link I found, point given, but you wouldn’t argue that nuclear waste is safe to be around would you?

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              It’s not a strawman. It is 100% completely comparable to your point. You’re over here using deaths as a point against a technology when the current de facto standard society runs on us unimaginably worse.

              But keep handwaving and calling actual legitimate arguments against what you’re saying, “Strawmen.” It’s great and doesn’t stifle healthy discussions in any way.

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                  To be arguing pro solar, wind, water, and social and economic change, you would have had to have mentioned them. The only things you said were isolated anti nuclear rhetoric, lol. Ultimately, I agree with you, but read back through the comment thread, perhaps.

                  tl;dr - It was not a strawman, but opposition to your comments as existing in a vacuum.

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      Things lemmy loves: imperial propaganda, corporate propaganda, genocide, joe and kamala, liberalism, blaming (non)voters, anti-russian racism, etc.

      Still better than reddit.

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        But it only takes 3.5 hours per turkey and a day has 24 of them. So if some people get up at 3am it works out!

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    Rookie Numbers. It only uses electrical power generated. Why not cook turkeys in heat destined for cooling towers ? Gotta push those numbers way up.

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    The fun part of this is this is true of any 1GW power source. We have been deploying solar+battery arrays in that range recently for much less money and much faster than nuclear.

    Thanks “Office of nuclear energy” for pointing out how useful large scale solar+battery is too!