No. In a nazi-free area, just kick the nazi, that’s easy. What I’m arguing is that you should give the benefit of the doubt to the other 9 people. Don’t assume.
All areas should be nazi-free areas. If any of them are truly attempting to de-radicalize someone they would know that there is a time and place for it, and out in general society is not it.
Is this another “learn the book of forbidden words” situation?
This is very reductive, dismissive and exactly the kind of thing a white supremacist would say to try and justify saying something shitty. Which is exactly PotentiallyAnApricot’s point. I could chock it up to naivety, but just as an outside observer on this thread and others, I don’t think it is.
I refused to read into white supremacist propaganda any further than seeing their basic manipulation strategies, and that was a few decades ago. Are you asking me to read the updated version?
Dismantling systemic oppression personally, interpersonally, and in greater society is a constant process. Especially as a white person. Saying you did some research decades ago and are all good now is not how it works.
Now, this is reductive and dismissive. “Tow it outside the environment” is not an option, you can only create reservation, concentration, and general areas.
If any of them are truly attempting to de-radicalize someone they would know that there is a time and place for it, and out in general society is not it.
Part of de-radicalization is reinsertion into general society. Can’t be done outside. Studies have shown that de-radicalization actually lags way behind reinsertion. What you’re proposing are lifelong reeducation camps.
is a constant process. Especially as a white person.
The what? Not sure if you realize, but stuff like this “Especially as a [whatever]” is what pushes people over the line.
Dismantling systemic oppression personally, interpersonally […]
Saying you did some research decades ago and are all good now is not how it works.
Part of de-radicalization is reinsertion into general society.
After they are no longer a nazi. If they are still a nazi, they belong outside society.
stuff like this “Especially as a [whatever]” is what pushes people over the line.
Ok, to be be less specific, especially as the people that benefit from systemic oppression we have to keep more on it than those do not benefit from it. I used white people because we are currently the largest benefactors of systemic oppression. If that “pushes you over the line” you were too close to line to begin with.
This is not what I said.
The meaning most people get from what you said is that you learned how white supremacists manipulate people decades ago, then disengaged. Again, in order to keep getting better, you have to keep learning, and for fucking sure chuds will keep trying to distract and minimize.
All areas should be nazi-free areas. If any of them are truly attempting to de-radicalize someone they would know that there is a time and place for it, and out in general society is not it.
This is very reductive, dismissive and exactly the kind of thing a white supremacist would say to try and justify saying something shitty. Which is exactly PotentiallyAnApricot’s point. I could chock it up to naivety, but just as an outside observer on this thread and others, I don’t think it is.
Dismantling systemic oppression personally, interpersonally, and in greater society is a constant process. Especially as a white person. Saying you did some research decades ago and are all good now is not how it works.
Now, this is reductive and dismissive. “Tow it outside the environment” is not an option, you can only create reservation, concentration, and general areas.
Part of de-radicalization is reinsertion into general society. Can’t be done outside. Studies have shown that de-radicalization actually lags way behind reinsertion. What you’re proposing are lifelong reeducation camps.
The what? Not sure if you realize, but stuff like this “Especially as a [whatever]” is what pushes people over the line.
This is not what I said.
It is very much an option, and one that works. You can’t have an inclusive society if you accept members that want other members dead.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
After they are no longer a nazi. If they are still a nazi, they belong outside society.
Ok, to be be less specific, especially as the people that benefit from systemic oppression we have to keep more on it than those do not benefit from it. I used white people because we are currently the largest benefactors of systemic oppression. If that “pushes you over the line” you were too close to line to begin with.
The meaning most people get from what you said is that you learned how white supremacists manipulate people decades ago, then disengaged. Again, in order to keep getting better, you have to keep learning, and for fucking sure chuds will keep trying to distract and minimize.