• jarfil@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    In a nazi-free area, just kick the nazi

    All areas should be nazi-free areas.

    Now, this is reductive and dismissive. “Tow it outside the environment” is not an option, you can only create reservation, concentration, and general areas.

    If any of them are truly attempting to de-radicalize someone they would know that there is a time and place for it, and out in general society is not it.

    Part of de-radicalization is reinsertion into general society. Can’t be done outside. Studies have shown that de-radicalization actually lags way behind reinsertion. What you’re proposing are lifelong reeducation camps.

    is a constant process. Especially as a white person.

    The what? Not sure if you realize, but stuff like this “Especially as a [whatever]” is what pushes people over the line.

    Dismantling systemic oppression personally, interpersonally […] Saying you did some research decades ago and are all good now is not how it works.

    This is not what I said.

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      Now, this is reductive and dismissive. “Tow it outside the environment” is not an option

      It is very much an option, and one that works. You can’t have an inclusive society if you accept members that want other members dead.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

      Part of de-radicalization is reinsertion into general society.

      After they are no longer a nazi. If they are still a nazi, they belong outside society.

      stuff like this “Especially as a [whatever]” is what pushes people over the line.

      Ok, to be be less specific, especially as the people that benefit from systemic oppression we have to keep more on it than those do not benefit from it. I used white people because we are currently the largest benefactors of systemic oppression. If that “pushes you over the line” you were too close to line to begin with.

      This is not what I said.

      The meaning most people get from what you said is that you learned how white supremacists manipulate people decades ago, then disengaged. Again, in order to keep getting better, you have to keep learning, and for fucking sure chuds will keep trying to distract and minimize.