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You don’t understand, their support of lesser fascism is necessary to avoid the greater fascism, so by opposing them you’re actually supporting the greater fascism
I’d accept a viable alternative. Wake me up when we have one.
whoops, world ended
Yup. We need lesser of two in red districts and vote for our ideals in our safe districts to move the part as a whole.
Fuck the lesser of two evils. I choose good.
“Purity politics and single issue voters are so toxic! All I said is we need to support an active genocide, fund more wars, keep kids in cages, ignore COVID, and do nothing about the cost of living going up with wages going down. Why does the left want to alienate people like me?!”
DEMS: You have to understand we need to eat the shit. If we dont eat the shit the other guy is going to smear it on your face and the faces of your children. So, you see, eating the shit is necessary so that we dont have to smear it over more people’s faces.
Me: how the fuck are the only choices shit? Why dont we just not eat the shit and not have everyone horrified of us?
They’ve somehow managed to convince a stunningly large number of gullible people, that you need to eat shit to survive, or that its harm reduction or something…
Harm reduction is eating 15 pounds of shit, because the next guy will make you eat 16 pounds of shit. If you want a dental dam, you’re unrealistic.
Because someone has to eat the shit
*the poors must eat the shit.
Trickle Down used be called “Horse and Sparrow Economics.” As in the horses eat the grain, and sparrows peck their meals from the horseshit.
The only actual job of the DNC is to suck up all the space and oxygen that a real left needs to grow, and rubber stamp every oppressive police measure they think they have to in order to secure the profits of the rich at the expense of all other life on Earth. The best of them are self-deluding soft exterminationists at this point, and the bulk of the party has apparently dispensed with even that fig leaf and embraced a kind of haughty, blue fascist schadenfreude regarding the people it failed to browbeat into supporting genocide. It’s genuinely the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen in my life after the killing itself. The Democratic party is pathologically incapable of taking any responsibility for it’s action, has no desire to change anything, and is actively, dangerously hostile to all living beings, first and foremost human beings outside America. Nothing better will be allowed to grow unless it is thoroughly dismantled alongside the Republican party and most of the rest of the US government.
Not dividing the left, just consolidating the right
True. Sorry, your ideology lost so hard that half of it was Trump’s 1st term policy. Concede to the left for once in your god damn lives or suffer liberals.
Concede to the left for once in your god damn lives or suffer liberals.
They’ll choose suffering. They love Trump, its why they didn’t arrest him. He doesn’t hurt the bottom line, just the poors, browns, and queers.
When a casual acquaintance asks my political leaning, I say Democrat to keep things simple. But, really, I’m a Bernie guy. I don’t want to talk politics, and trying to explain that Democrats are actually center-right is just too much effort to put into… well, just about everyone nowadays.
Why don’t you just say progressive then seems to sum it up
Okay, but Sanders isn’t on the left, either, despite calling himself a socialist. Sanders will say that It’s OK to Be Angry About Capitalism, and he’ll complain about “crony” capitalism and “über” capitalism, but as a liberal he’ll never question capitalism as such. He’ll never question private ownership of the means of production.
Anarchy is not left in the US unless they’ve all of a sudden come around on social programs.
Welfare capitalism is not the left; it’s the leftmost part of the right. The left is socialism. Anarchists are socialists. Liberals are not.
The American Libertarian sects tend to loosely regard themselves as anarchist, which is frustrating as all hell.
Anarcho-capitalism is opportunistic enough to co-opt anything.
capitalism itself does that pretty well
come around on social programs.
Wat.
Anarchists are the ones who are consistently making social programs from scratch. Direct action is and has always been about feeding people as well as sabotaging bulldozers.
i think they’re conflating anarchists with “anarcho”-capitalists
well its the most left wing party in the US that has a chance of winning
Even when the Democratic party does win, the working class still loses.
📺 Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed
Democrats would rather lose to a Republican, to a conservative, to a fascist, to Trump, than address the material conditions of the American people.
You do realize that DSA candidates are fairly successful (to varying degrees of positive outcomes) regionally, and to a lesser extent PSL though they are further left.
It is this mindset from liberals such as yourself that actually stops good things from happening.
Also if the Democratic party keeps eating shit to/failing to accomplishing anything in the face of the open fascist party I don’t trust them to do anything good ever. You also discount all the marginalized people actively harmed by their right wing policies (and they are very much a right wing party).
Democrats are pro-nazi, pro-genocide, pro-police, pro-prison, pro-concentration camps, pro-deportations, pro-tariffs, pro-landlord, anti-healthcare, anti-worker, anti-trans, anti-gay, and anti-women. In what world are they even remotely left wing?
pro nazi? i think i accidentily entered a conspiracy sub, my bad chief
They openly and fiercely support azov nazis
That user seems to be a pro-EU Dutch liberal lol. It wouldn’t surprise me if they smugly pretend Ukraine doesn’t have a nazi problem.
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Being left of reps doesn’t make you left.
no, but it unfortunatly is the only option for leftists in the US (or revolution cough cough)
Years of lesser of two evil voting has sent us to the lesser of two genocides, and the US picked the bigger genocide anyway. How long are you going to imagine that as being a viable strategy? How many genocide only elections will it take?
History will view lesser evil voters the same way they veiw ww2 German citizens who were just doing as they’re told.
if Democrats are the “only option” then leftists have no option.
Democrats are losers even when they win, so might as well vote for the “actually leftist” parties instead. they’ll lose the election, but Dems lose after they win.
if leftists vote for a representative cuz “they can win”, but when they win they don’t represent leftists, why should leftists vote for them?
fuuuuck that shit.
Dems suck, they think/act like they know best. They tell us they’re gonna do what they’re gonna do anyway and that we need to follow em like good employees or kiddos. no thanks, i don’t need "reps"like that, they can eat shit
I’m good continuing to vote 3rd party. ill take my L with pride rather than vote for those professional losers ever again
My take from the person that you are replying to is that they support Fetterman
Yeah the most pro Nazi democrat of them all. Er go I have no choice but assume this person is just a fascist that doesn’t like the optics of republicans except when, of course, they apparently do.
🎤he lies and says he’s a leftist man
Can’t vote for fettermaaaaan
if he’s a color, it’s deep R red
Can’t vote for fetterman 🎶
Having a chance of winning means you are on the right, that’s the whole thing
And they do nothing for the left when they do win - fuck them.
Just like the pit of infinite despair and spiked dildos is technically different from the pit of infinite spiked dildos and despair; being to the left of republicans because you want to burn orphans for warmth instead of fun does not make you left wing nor a good choice.
lotta asterisks in that sentence lol
