I read this in Ben Shapiro’s voice

Aww, did someone get sad sad when their favourite christofascist caught the bad words on teh interwebs? It’s ok booboo, Benny is still here and he’s still making all the lady parts dwy. Don’t you listen to the naughty haters!

But that has nothing to do with capital. My point is that we would be making these advances regardless of GDP or the value of the NYSE or whatever. Capitalism does not drive innovation is what I’m saying to you.

Ok fair enough. I am not familiar with the American academic legal system. I do not appreciate being likened to the “Rogan crowd”.
The fact about it being a professional qualification rather than an academic one stands, then, I take it?

Meh, JD is an entry-level law qualification: “in Canada, it is considered a second-entry bachelor’s degree.” [Wikipedia] In any case, it’s a professional qualification, not an academic one.

Shapiro only has a B.A.
Peterson is fully qualified to talk on psychological markers for alcoholism, and a broad range of clinical psychology, and not much else.
They are both (educated) bullshit merchants, not intellectuals. Intellectuals are honest.

The industrial revolution happened because of technological advances, not the other way around. The economic model changed because of basic human greed. Scientific breakthroughs happen with or without financial incentive because of basic human curiosity.

The world would absolutely be better if we hadn’t been ravaging the atmosphere and ecosystems for 300 years. Do you think cars, factories, the internet make the world a better place? For who? The people who own these things benefit while the rest of us clamour for space and calories. Fuck capitalism.
Technology advanced before capitalism for the few hundred thousand years or so that humans were around. Ingenuity and provenance - standing on the shoulders of giants, drives innovation, not free market competition. Capitalism or not, we would still have science. And without capitalism, I believe we would spend a fair bit more of our time on it, instead of chasing green bits of paper.

Have a look around

I too use Skyrim for dysphoria therapy! Although my dysphoria is less intense and just linked to… gestures broadly

Yes.

There’s definitely a paper in this idea

That’s why they stopped at three. The fourth bridge always takes forever to paint.

I think it’s just an assumption based on the mode of society at that time in history. If it was built in the 12th century it was built by what we would now consider slaves. In the 1100s the land was divided into fiefs and the lord of that land considered the people who lived and worked on the land as part of that land: serfs. Unless this bridge was an exception to the rule, then serfs would have undertaken all the labour that got it built.

“That Thou Art Mindful of Him” is the robot story of Asimov’s that scared me the most, because of this exact reasoning happening. I remember closing the book, staring into space and thinking ‘shit…we are all gonna die’

This is a top notch post and thread, and has reminded me why I continue to use the internet. Good job everyone.

It smells like bullshit and looks like bullshit, has passed seventeen double blind trials for the detection of bullshit, and has been stepped in by a connoisseur of cowpats who consequently confirmed its credibility.

But they’re doing those ineffective and worthless things in the course of guarding against public entrance to a privately owned building that the public pay for. Do you still refuse to see the hypocrisy and injustice there?

Oh ok, I didn’t see that meaning. I mean I can’t personally afford an army and health service for the entire nation, but I’m still paying for it!

You’re barking up the wrong tree there. I give zero fucks about military tradition, except to find it sinister and unnecessary. I’m well aware of the guards having other duties. Wouldn’t it be better if they didn’t have to do the silly dances in their silly hats and nutcracker uniforms. Then they could maybe do something worthwhile and effective with their time.
At no point did I say that ridding ourselves (not “scaling back”) of these particular leeches would solve my housing situation or even the housing crisis at large. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of it. A point which you failed to address, for some reason.