“Nordic cuisine” is probably used because it provides better name recognition too, in addition to a wider selection.
Karelian stew and mämmi. Crispbread to go with them. That’s it.
It’s much more than that. https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomalainen_keittiö But a lot of those aren’t internationally known or specifically associated with Finland so it doesn’t make it worth it to run a specifically Finnish cuisine focused restaurant.
I mean, Finnish cuisine is a thing, but… it’s not a thing. And you probably very well know what I mean with that.
It’s not on par with world class cuisines, definitely.
Oh you dipshit, that just means a restaurant that’s in Finland.
Nope.
Often when you specify “suomalainen” it correctly interprets the results as you seeking for Finnish or Finnish influenced food. Test it out yourself.
I get that you don’t much care for Finnish cuisine but it doesn’t mean such a thing doesn’t exist. How fancy or popular or varied or even good it is is an another matter. And it’s not what I’m arguing about. This isn’t an emotional or opinion thing to me, I’m just saying the concept of cuisine doesn’t really work how you are defining it. It’s not even about it being Finnish, it’d be the same for Icelandic or Russian or Greek or any other cuisine.
Don’t think I don’t remember you doubting my story of the police abusing me, of which I have proof.
Huh?
It’s about the concept of a “cuisine”. I’m sure you understand what is meant by it.
No I understand, I’m just saying how you define it doesn’t really follow how it is commonly defined. Which is fine, but again, something to keep in mind.
I don’t believe there are any “Finnish restaurants”.
There are. Search for “suomalainen ravintola”.
But I’m quite sure no other country has a “Finnish restaurant”
Those exist too. Mostly to serve expatriates, but still.
I’m pointing out Finland lacks food culture
Well that’s an opinion you are sharing. And it’s fine to think so, it’s just not generally seen as true. Food culture is just what people are eating in certain areas and the traditional dishes associated with it. So of course Finland would have a food culture. You are defining it as something else, so by the way you are defining it it might be true.
I think the whole thing could be summed as you feeling that Finnish cuisine isn’t good or popular enough to warrant the term. It’s an opinion I’ve heard before, so I get it and I’m not arguing against it. I’m just saying on more objective way, the way the terms are defined, Finnish cuisine and food culture does exist. Doesn’t mean you are wrong but I just simply wanted to note that to make up “cuisine” there’s no high bar.
I hope that helps to settle this.
I don’t know if you think the colloquial use aligns more with what you said, but in Finnish cuisine is just “keittiö” (as in suomalainen keittiö) or ruokakulttuuri. English word is much the same in that it actually doesn’t just mean something fancy, even though as a French origin word it can seem like a fancy word.
I’m just going with that. It’s not a personal preference thing. I like Finnish food but it doesn’t really matter to me if the term cuisine was reserved for just fancy. I was just saying.
It’s just that that’s not how cuisine is usually understood. But like I said, I wasn’t trying to change your opinion, just noted that as usually defined it does exist.
That’s what I was saying, the concept exists even if it’s not popular or good enough to warrant existing in your opinion.
It wasn’t meant to change your opinions but to show that “Finnish cuisine” as a thing does exist.
I mean it’s peasant food. Simple, fulfilling and imo pretty good for what it is. Karelian stew being a good example, though I’ve never actually had it as plain as you described.
Traditional Finnish cuisine isn’t anything fancy but it’s not really supposed to be either. And I don’t mind, I like it.
Some do, some don’t. It’s not a set in stone thing afaik. Some old recipes are simpler than others. These days mostly always it’s more than just meat(s), water, salt.
Good meat doesn’t need anything else than salt imo. But usually Karelian stew has pepper and other stuff in it too.
I mean I like the taste of meat so I really like it
I’ve done that before, because it seemed funny. No real complaints, I like toast and it was just buttery toast.
Karelian stew is simple peasant food, easy to make but fulfilling. It’s that but also delicious. It’s not supposed to go toe-to-toe with the whole culinary world.
Finland Swedes
Pickled beets are awesome though
I like that Finland Swedes got a special mention but rest of Finland was left out
I mean could be, I don’t remember. Just seemed like a weird thing to throw out there.
That is you trying to define it. Your own article links to “List of European cuisines” and that includes and links to “Finnish cuisine”. If you were trying to define cuisine through truly unique foods or preparation techniques etc, not only would you drive yourself insane but you’d also find out you wouldn’t have many cuisines left.