Yeah nah, you are right.

I knew already about sawyer syndrome and that genetically XY can develop woman traits but I understood from the PhD, for some reason, that you can change from XY to XX during your life…

Ok here I can see my lack in logic. I understood that the PhD was saying that XX can change into XY during the life of the person, not that they are born XY and naturally develop female traits.

My only pet peeve with all this is “misgendering” which I honestly despise. If one is a grown up 180cm male I’m never gonna call him a “her” just because of a wig and makeup.

But if someone was raised as a woman because that’s how her body developed even if she has XY chromosomes I won’t call her “he”.

Welp, honest mistake. For some reason I thought hydrogen and helium can only create other atoms, not become eachother.

Still, my point stands, humans are no atoms

I keep hearing this. If gender is not sex than gender is not real, you can be whatever you want whenever you want, right?

Still, if a dudes is a dude it’s a he, if a woman is a woman it’s a she.

The only time I would actually bother ask someone what they like to be called is if they have an intersex condition. That’s it.

Have you ever, in good faith, talked to a trans person?

Yes, it was the exactly stereotypical “call me mam” hairy dude. Yeah, that’s never gonna happen. First time in my life I told someone to never talk with me and pretend I don’t exist. I don’t want to interact with these kind of lunatics.

Have you ever, in good faith, talked to an intersex person?

No but I would love too, that seems genuinely interesting. I’d have so many questions to ask

So we agree that there are

XX - woman XY - man

And some genetic mutationa in between XXY - Klinfelter syndrome XXXY - no idea how this is called X -Turner syndrome XX intersex XY intersex And true gonadal intersex

And still these are medical conditions, a man on drugs wearing a wig is still a man, and a woman on drugs to grow facial hair is still a woman.

It’s a he and a she regardless

Oh yes, I very sure we can compare atoms with humans. Maybe inside the sun a man can become a woman and vice-versa

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I think it’s really funny you left out the exact intersex conditions that disprove your point, Swyer syndrome and de la Chapelle syndrome.

And again, those are conditions, not something you choose to be, you are simply born like that.

So someone with de la Chapelle syndrome is neither a man nor a woman but has a syndrome?

Well than, waht is someone with Chappel syndrome?

Sex is not just chromosomes (as proven by the two conditions I linked above)

Oh yes, it’s also the malformations that you were born with

with hormone replacement therapy, which changes some secondary sex characteristics. Or even just gynecomastia does it too.

oh so you need drugs to mimic traits from the opposite sex (there are only two after all) and gender is given by your sex.

Forrest Valkai’s new Sex and Sensibility video (warning, it’s long).

I am actually gonna watch this

Language is completely made up and changes all the time. But you’re claiming it will never change again?

Yes, language is not “made up” it evolved and will evolve naturally, demanding language to change to cater to you is not natural.

Arguments mate, or you are just wasting our time.

Let me ask you this:

What is the 3rd gender that one can “transition” to? Does one need to take drugs to impede their biological physiology to work properly if they want to “transition”? If one stops taking hormonal drugs what will happen?

Any individual can have different traits:

• a woman can be agressive, impatient with kids and mean
• a man can be a good cook, can like to clean take care of kids and easy to scare
• a woman can be good at fighting and assertive
• a man can have mood swings

Nothing of what I said makes anyone less of a man or woman, they are EXACTLY what they were born with whatever masculine or feminine traits they have.

Well, to be fair, not magically and not in any other way, it is impossible to change your sex

Tell us what the 3rd gender is please.

~95% of all animals in the world, including humans, are gonochoric, have only 2 sexes.

Turner syndrome and klinfelter syndrome are exatly that, syndromes

From the article:

“Girls born with XY chromosomes are genetically boys but for a variety of reasons – mutations in genes that determine sexual development”

And again, they don’t magically become the other sex, that was already determined at birth.

XY it’s man, XX it’s woman, nothing will ever change that…

There are intersex people, of course: Klinfelter syndrome (XXY) Turner syndrome (X) There is also XXXY which brings serious disabilities

So you as a man puttin on a wig WILL NEVER make you a woman.

“~95% of all animals in the world are ghonocoric in which individuals are either female or male sex” - “Genome evolution and mating systems in plants” Aline Muyle and Gabriel Marais

You are either a man, a woman, or you have a syndrome, a genetical mutation, a birth defect. It’s a delusion to believe that you can change your biological sex during your lifetime.

I will never hold anything against these poor souls, it’s not their fault for how they were born. But people cutting up their genitals and saying they are a woman now while stuffing themselves full of hormones are simply delusional.

I’m so glad that were I live there are virtually 0 “trans”. Only time in my life when I had to say “Please stop talking to me and imagine I don’t exist” was with a dude cosplaying as a woman.

And no, you won’t change speech, you are a man and a he, a woman and a she. That’s it, you can get as angry as you want, nothing will ever change that.

Yeah, and those are malformations and genetical defects that come with a lot of problems.

I don’t know why people glorify them… Also, there is absolutely no way that a man born with XY magically will change it in their lifetime as the posts sugests.