• Nalivai@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    That’s true, some people repeat the same points for free. This is also bad, it leads to bad outcomes.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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      100+ years of electoralism and you ended up in fascism anyway. Talk about bad outcomes.

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        3 days ago

        Fascism, the ultimate form of antielectoralism, is winning, yes. And instead of fighting it, the most passionate groups of left-leaning people are obsessed with not doing the bare minimum to stop it.

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            Democracy works for whoever uses it. If you don’t use it, if you only let the worst parts of your country to use it, you get your electoralism.
            There is an alternative explanation to all of it, progressives being a small minority will also explain the situation.
            I let you to decide which is worse.

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              The degree to which liberal democracy ‘works’ is dependent on the health of capital

              The more capital fails, the greater chance democracy slips into populism because capital can no longer address the needs of the people and sustain its infinite growth. Populism either leans left (redistribution of capital towards labor) or it leans right (consolidation of capital toward an ‘in’ group to the exclusion of the out groups), but once capital has failed there’s really no returning to liberal democracy*.

              *edit - until capital re-balances, but will trend toward collapse again

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              in particular, it seems to work for whomever can get their districts more successfully gerrymandered.

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          Pretty much. The left can’t be bothered by pragmatism and is blinded by perfectionism. It boggles my mind how the political side who should be the go to for most of the population can’t make politics.

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            “the left”- you have no idea what is left or right. The left maybe have two proponents in the entirety of government.

            Edit: or->is

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              Maybe not voting hurts the chances of not having more proponents in government. Think we found the problem.

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                2 days ago

                Nah couldn’t be, everyone should just let the fascist elect themselves and then cry about fascism.

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                  Y’all implying I didn’t vote? You’re fucking delusional!

                  I voted blue straight down the line in a very very red state knowing where our electoral votes would fall.

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                    Not you personally, but a lot of people that are less right than republicans didn’t show up so trump won.