• waggz@programming.dev
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    23 hours ago

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    I’m not sure you understand what the word nor means.

    • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
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      Deporting someone isn’t depriving them of life or liberty unless they are certain to be incarcerated the moment they arrive. Which, I suppose, would be the case for those folks that were shipped off to El Salvador, but for the majority of deportees, it isn’t.

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        There are people here seeking asylum for threats of gang violence against them. Depriving someone of their safe refuge is depriving someone of liberty. Do you think those people should be sent back to their countries?

        Well it doesn’t matter what you think because that already happened.

        • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
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          Seeking asylum isn’t illegal, and those with a pending petition are not considered illegal immigrants. Until a decision is made, they have temporary protected status.

          Crossing the border without permission OTH IS illegal and subject to deportation. It’s not that difficult.

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            22 hours ago

            You realize part of seeking asylum also can involve crossing the border without permission and is codified in law?

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                I’m assuming you are conveniently ignoring Trump’s executive orders that severely limited options for seeking asylum and instead are asking people to search innumerable records to distract from the inhumanity of your position?

                Can’t deport asylum seekers if seeking asylum is illegal after all.

                May those who find themselves with the power to judge your fate have the mercy and compassion you so clearly lack.

                  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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                    Shockingly incompetent and.bad, a violation of human rights, and something the ICC may eventually arrest him over. It’s indefinite slavery in El Salvador and possible organ trafficking. It’s literal concentration camps for the indigenous people who were here in this land thousands of years before the rest of us. It’s bad, and I curse you to be treated exactly how they are treated. May their fate be tied to yours. Better get to work freeing them so it doesn’t happen to you.

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            Sure until they decide you no longer have your temporary protected status. It doesn’t even matter if you’re a citizen, you have an autism awareness tattoo? Have fun in El Salvador

            • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
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              A petition for asylum does not HAVE to be accepted. Once it’s been denied, you do indeed lose your status, and you’re generally expected to leave the country.

              But tell me, please, how many of those who have been deported by Trump had a pending petition for asylum that was ignored?