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  • atrielienz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    7 days ago

    So, I’m going to say that I don’t use telegram and only know it as being presented as a secure messenger platform. As a result, I am just asking follow-on questions to further discern what makes Element preferable. And this is no different because I feel like this is exactly the problem lemmy and other platforms like it have. There are people who love them, but when people ask about them, they don’t offer any really informative data to support why they like them.

    What makes Element (matrix) a secure platform, and how does that differ from telegram or signal or whatever. Like. What is matrix good at? That’s what I’m asking. Why suggest it over something else?

    • troed@fedia.io
      3·
      7 days ago

      Matrix is a decentralized platform with the same level of security/encryption as Signal. Being decentralized you can run your own server, and chat with others on other servers.

      It supports groups, voice, streams etc - similar to Discord/Slack/Teams etc.

      Open source. Multiple different server and client implementations. Mobile platforms, “all” operating systems, and with bridges so you can have your IRC, Telegram, Slack, FB Messenger etc channels go to your Matrix account/server.

    • tfm@europe.pubOPEnglish
      2·
      7 days ago

      As a result, I am just asking follow-on questions to further discern what makes Element preferable.

      If you are against a change in the first place you won’t switch, anyway.

      There are people who love them, but when people ask about them, they don’t offer any really informative data to support why they like them.

      Please, ask.

      What makes Element (matrix) a secure platform, and how does that differ from telegram or signal or whatever. Like. What is matrix good at? That’s what I’m asking. Why suggest it over something else?

      Simple. It’s fully free and open source. The server as well as the apps. Therefore, you can trust it as a privacy friendly solution a heck of a lot more, than any other solution like WhatsApp.

      Signal is secure as well, but the server is centralized.

      And Telegram is not considered secure because of their implementation and shady practices.

      • atrielienz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        I did ask. Why is it like pulling teeth to get answers? I don’t use WhatsApp. Never got on that bandwagon. Something being free and open source doesn’t mean it’s good. Something being trustworthy from your standpoint doesn’t explain why it’s trustworthy to a layman who doesn’t understand why you think FOSS = trustworthy or good. It’s FOSS and you’ve looked at the code and found it to live up to its claims of being secure?

        I’m not sure where the hostility is coming from here but I’m more pointing out that I can use a search engine to find out about matrix to some extent, but people who use the platform and have a better understanding of its pros and cons have valuable information to pass on. But when you ask them about it they’re full of recommendations but those recommendations often don’t have much in the way of information about what’s good about the user experience or feature set or even the code. I’m trying to show that the particulars of why you like or prefer something matter.

        • tfm@europe.pubOPEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          Something being free and open source doesn’t mean it’s good

          True. But it’s verifiable.

          It’s FOSS and you’ve looked at the code and found it to live up to its claims of being secure?

          Popular FOSS projects get audited all the time. Heck, there is even automated software to detect anomalies in code changes.

          Auditability is the only reason why you can only really trust open source but not closed source. With proprietary software you’ll always have to trust the developers to not do something shady and are competent enough. With open source you can simply verify it.

          Also being open source is what usually makes popular FOSS more stable and secure than most closed counterparts. A LOT of people donate their work and since it’s completely public, most want their contributions to be in good shape. If only a few or no other people see your code, you are tempted to write bad code a lot more. This of course is not always the case but more often than not.

          Also in most developed countries it’s illegal to purposefully introduce manipulated code. And I don’t think most people would risk punishment for that if literally anybody could find it.

          I’m trying to show that the particulars of why you like or prefer something matter.

          Sure. But most people don’t care about the details, unfortunately. In the case of messaging they just want to communicate. And if someone asks me, which platform I’d recommend I will always start with the most secure and private.