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Flirting with Trump is flirting with Nazism - Response to Andy Yen (CEO of Proton AG) on Reddit 📢📢📢

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Flirting with Trump is flirting with Nazism - Response to Andy Yen (CEO of Proton AG) on Reddit 📢📢📢

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https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2ff6q/call_for_andy_yen_to_resign/

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    Isn’t 88 neo-Nazi code for “heil Hitler”? And isn’t putting it in binary to disguise it evidence that he knows full well what it means?

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      As much as I’m not terribly fond of the guy, IIRC he’s 36, which makes ‘88’ likely short for 1988, the year he was born.

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        Oh OK, that makes sense. Still, an unfortunate choice of username that could add to the confusion.

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          Removed by mod

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            Our license plates look like this: 2/3-letter city identifier - 1/2 letters you can choose - a 1-4 digit number you can choose. A friend of mine has the initials A.H. and was born in 1988. He wanted CITY - AH - 88. Registration did not allow it as it’s nazi dog whistling.

            Dog whistling is very common to find like-minded fascists and nazis. Kind of a sad, pathetic life if you think about it.

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              It is very sad indeed. I went through the same experience when I wanted a license plate to commemorate Albert Heijn.

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            I’m just aware of how these people signal to each other. I don’t know anything about the Proton CEO’s politics, but numbers like 14 and 88 in usernames are common dogwhistles.

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              What does 14 mean?

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                It stands for “the 14 words”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

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            Hey that guy is thinking about stuff! They must got brainrot!

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        That’s correct, he was asked about it on Reddit too and confirmed it was just his birth year.

        Since it’s a common dog whistle though I do think it’s always worth questioning. Particularly when it’s tied to someone licking Trump’s boots.

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          A lot of Nazis were supposedly born in 1988…

          But in this specific case, i believe him.

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            Even if he is born in 1988, he could have picked a non-Nazi suffix for his username.

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              This is dumb lol

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                Hey, Nazi getting punched out

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            Cool story bro.

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        8 is also a lucky number in Chinese culture. I’ve seen a lot of "88"s in Chinese social media just because of that.

        It always sucks when shitbags co-opt innocent symbols and language.

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        This was my first thought, as it’s a very common username addon. I was unaware of all the other stuff.

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          While yes adding your birth year to your username is common (but terrible OpSec), adding 88 or HH or other Nazi symbolism is also common among their community. Especially in an open setting.

          It serves as a shibboleth for the alt-right that you are one of them.

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        Yeah, born in 88 and also a lucky number in some cultures

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      He’s from Asia where the number 8 have a good luck meaning, so is likely is not related to the 88 neo nazis uses.

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        same reasoning would justify the use of swastika for an indian living in Germany

        good luck working that out

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          To be fair, it’s easier to be ignorant of neo-Nazi numerology than of their use of the swastika.

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          It absolutely justifies Indians using the swastika. They didn’t agree to the nazis stealing their culture, that had existed for thousands of years, to use as their logo. Don’t be racist.

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            looks like it’s even more complicated than i did assume ☞ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_(Germanic_Iron_Age)

            this has nothing to do with race, i was making an analogy. I’m neither in/from Germany, nor in/from India. I just happen to know this:

            The German and Austrian postwar criminal code makes the public showing of the swastika, the sig rune, the Celtic cross (specifically the variations used by white power activists), the wolfsangel, the odal rune and the Totenkopf skull illegal, except for certain enumerated exemptions.

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        Thanks for pointing that out. I didn’t know about that good luck meaning.

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        I’d buy that if he didn’t start his statement with “I live in Switzerland.” 8 may be a lucky number for him, but he absolutely knows what 88 means.

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          He can be both from asia and still live in Switzerland

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            On the flip side, do you think a Swiss person living in Asia would be ignorant that 8 is a lucky number?

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              I think all the Westerners in this thread that are shocked that Asia has culture they didn’t consult them on would imply yes to your question.

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        Sadly, “Asia” doesn’t mean “ignorance of Hitler.”

        #Looking for link to Nazi store in …

        Edit: first link I found. Not endorsement. https://qz.com/928440/asias-disturbing-embrace-of-nazi-chic-is-prompting-a-nonprofit-to-teach-holocaust-history

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      The number 8 is considered the luckiest number in China, and is associated with wealth. The year 1988 also happens to be his birth year.

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        He knows what he’s doing.

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          Being Asian? Way to put yourself as a racist.

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            What? You OK?

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      Not even a little in this situation. Maybe take your head out of your ass and stop spreading lies. He literally addressed this head on.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/comment/m7nr5ym/

      His reply in text form:

      It’s the year I was born, and also a lucky number in Taiwan where I am from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_(number)#%3A~%3Atext=Number+88+symbolizes+fortune+and%2Csupermarkets+often+contain+many+8s.

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      And explain this!!

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