I’m a software developer, and I’m currently noodling around with the idea of a small suite of software to help me moderate a couple communities. Right now, the features I’m thinking of are:
- Lemmy bot integration - the suite would require a bot account.
- Some kind of content moderation (detecting things like spam, bigotry, etc.) to flag for me to review. Similar to the mod queue on that other site.
- Automatic removal of certain kinds of content. I figure this would be configurable, like you could choose whether your community is for text posts, for links, for videos, for pics, or some combination of everything.
- Domain blacklists and whitelists.
- Moderation record keeping - in other words, a database to keep track of bans, warnings, reports, etc.
- Canned automatic messages, which would be useful to send when banning, unbanning, responding to certain types of queries, and so on. So if you use the software to ban someone, they automatically receive a notification about what they were banned for, and for how long.
- Scheduled automatic posts, which would be configured with *.md files for content. Good for things like monthly meta threads.
- Controls for the bot via JSON objects in private messages, which would direct it to follow commands.
- Some kind of configurable user commands for the bot. (Haven’t really figured out what this would look like yet.)
- A simple web interface for all of this.
That’s what I’m considering so far, but I’d love to get more ideas from the broader Lemmy community, and will post it on Github if it comes together.
The technology stack I’m considering is:
- Node/Typescript
- The lemmy-bot library
- Sequelize for the database
- Nest.js for the web backend
- [TBD] for the web frontend (I hate React, so not that. Probably either Vue or Angular)
- Docker for containerization
So what features would other Lemmy mods like to see in a Lemmy moderation suite like this?
At this point, start ultra simple. Just a notification that tells me when posts are added to the community. Make it just like the comment reply notification. Maybe show me the whole post title in the notification so I get an idea if I should drop what I’m doing to check it out or get to it when I get to it.
Going way out the way on crazy features, maybe flag the notification with a different color for posts by users that have less than 5 posts or their account was recently created within the last few days.
Something similar to this is already in development.
It’s written in Python and utilizes the Pylemmy library to access the API.
So far it:
- Uses a deep neural network and a custom training dataset to detect toxic content (the training data out there wasn’t really very suitable)
- Has a hard-coded regexp flagging tool. It shouldn’t be hard to make that more dynamic.
- Has a probation list to flag users who are ‘being watched’.
- Will report comments/post for mod action.
- Will send a message to a selected Matrix room.
- Keeps track of previously assessed comments/posts using SQLite…
It’s actively being developed and I intended for it to get a lot more configurable and feature rich.
Happy for anyone to contribute (I would actually really appreciate it).
https://github.com/noenfugler/LemmyModBot
PS: It’s running on this community right now.
Oh! Neat! I’ll check it out. Maybe it’s time to brush up on my python skills.
Yay!
Ability to message mods. A lot of what automod on Reddit can do.
That’s basically the goal: A better and more configurable automod.
- Some kind of content moderation (detecting things like spam, bigotry, etc.) to flag for me to review. Similar to the mod queue on that other site.
regex matching for flagging / deleting phrases would be cool
That and perhaps some fuzzy logic of some kind to detect toxic content were basically what I had in mind, although from the looks of it, this community already has a bot for that which I wasn’t aware of, written in Python. So perhaps my efforts would be better spent contributing to that one instead of rolling my own.
Angular? Kind of shocked people still use that. I legit didn’t think people did. Curious what’s better than react about vue?
Angular is actually really popular inside large corporate environments. As soon as you start making something really large, with potentially hundreds of routes, it’s much easier to manage than the stitched-together crap you have to deal with in the React world. React is easy for startups that need a functional page quickly, but it’s a nightmare to build out an actual large, multi-faceted site with.
As for Vue, it sort of exists in a halfway state between being a full framework (like Angular) and giving you more tooling choice (like React). I’d say it’s a good choice for when you want to build something simple that has growth potential without becoming too unmanageable if its feature set explodes.
React, which I have to work with regularly for my job, gives me heartburn. Just keeping the dependencies updated is a pain in the ass. With Angular you’ve got… Angular. And that’s basically it. With React you’ve got React, and axios/cross-fetch/isomorphic-fetch, and redux, and babel, and relay (ugh), and bluebird, and… It’s just endless. And they all update on different schedules, and some share dependencies on different versions of the same libraries, and React’s documentation is still terrible, and if I never have to look at an ugly function with eleven layers of nested JavaScript and JSX code that can’t be split into smaller component chunks because of some stupid reason or other…
Sorry, I’m starting to rant. I think React has been a net negative for web development. It made quick and simple pages easy to create at the expense of ludicrous complexity as soon as you need to make your web app actually useful.
I appreciate all of this perspective.
I have never worked with angular, but I’ve seen many talks on it. Imo it feels really rigid, and like it’s not even js. I felt like when I interviewed candidates who had worked a lot with angular, they struggled to understand normal JavaScript and were fixated instead on how angular does things.
I tried vue and simply hated it with my entire soul. The syntax is enragingly confusing for me. Also doesn’t feel like JavaScript.
I was pretty resistant to react but I guess in the end, the flexibility it affords is why I don’t hate it. It feels like JavaScript. Have you tried next.js? I feel like it’s a big help with a lot of react’s pain points. Also typescript with next.js helps so much with the “stringed together mess” feeling you mentioned.
Let me get in touch with the other mods of this community, but you may be interested in our discord server. We have one mod currently working on a toxicity bot.
Looks like that mod responded here as well. I’m going to check out your bot. No sense reinventing the wheel.
Modnotes. Right now we don’t have a good and simple way to track repeated offenders.
