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    11 months ago

    Yeah, Firefox lacks features like built-in pop-up ads, full screen homepage ads (those ones are enabled by default), and a VPN you probably didn’t even purchase.

    Truly, the features I wanted to clog up my hard drive whether I use them or not

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          The affiliate link one certainly couldn’t. It wasn’t until people identified it and started complaining that the company had to backpedal.

          And even for the scam stuff that can be disabled, why should it be downloaded, installed, and take up space on the hard drive to begin with? If it’s so good, they can make it an add-on for people to optionally choose.

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            Well, the reason that is because brave wants you to use that, same way mozilla wants to you use their account services and the cloudflare dns that you can opt out of but can’t uninstall unless you use a fork of firefox.

            And also I don’t know why you put emphasis on space usage when firefox uses more resources on websites than brave and chromium, I tested it back when using xfce4 and for 3 tabs and the total system mem usage was 1.24 GIB for firefox and 1 GiB for Chromium and Brave. And when I did that test chromium hadn’t implemented a new feature that they added that moves inactive tabs to the disk.

            I also don’t think I’m gaining anything by replying to your comment after you didn’t even bother replying when I told you all the issues and missing features that firefox has and instead focus on hating brave. I hope you’re doing this because you hate the brave ceo and not because of some weird fanboyism with firefox lol.

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              Well, the reason that is because brave wants you to use that, same way mozilla wants to you use their account services

              Brave cryptocurrency crap = a Firefox account? Come on, at least compare apples to apples.

              And also I don’t know why you put emphasis on space usage when firefox uses more resources on websites

              Because we were talking about how opting out of cryptocurrency crap doesn’t fix the issues with it being installed by default.

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                Brave cryptocurrency crap = a Firefox account? Come on, at least compare apples to apples.

                You ignored the part about sending all the dns requests to cloudflare (the name of all the websites you visit), which sure, firefox is not as bad as brave on this. But I told you that already before, I said very clearly that when I mentioned that firefox is slightly better on this before in the other comments you didn’t bother even replying to…

                Because we were talking about how opting out of cryptocurrency crap doesn’t fix the issues with it being installed by default.

                You’re being disingenuous, another user said that it CAN’T be disabled to which I asked which can’t? because you can, and now you’re going on this weird goal post rant of it taking disk space while disabled ignoring all the useful features that brave has and all the issues and missing features of firefox lol.

                edit: This reminds me of the rants people have against systemd because it is more bloated but ignore the fact that it is faster and easier to use lol.

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                  Because we were talking about how opting out of cryptocurrency crap doesn’t fix the issues with it being installed by default.

                  You’re being disingenuous, another user said that it CAN’T be disabled to which I asked which can’t?

                  I gave a concrete example: when Brave injected affiliate codes into the URL bar, there was no way to disable it.

                  while ignoring all the useful features that brave has and all the issues and missing features of firefox

                  Because it’s irrelevant and gish gallop is not convincing to me

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                    My dude, the other user said that the crypto scams can’t be disabled, meaning right now in the present. Not that they couldn’t be disabled. I asked which can’t be right now in the present.

                    And now you’re talking about something that happened 4 years ago and was fixed lol. I did not ask when did brave ever prevent you from disabling crypto scams, I asked right now lmao.

                    Once again, I hope you’re doing this because you hate the brave ceo and not because of some weird fanboyism with firefox lol. Because the more I look at your comments the more it looks like the later. You just pretty much said that you don’t care about the issues with firefox by saying that it is irrelevant.

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      FIrefox lacks vertical tabs, can’t change the default new tab page background color without having to use a custom .css file.

      Having to use a userContent.css for something so basic is insane. That is orders of magnitude more work than disabling the crypto ads in brave which you don’t even have to go in the settings to disable, it is right on the homepage menu.

      Also firefox lacks configurable keybinds and when I used librewolf I had to add two extensions for something that basic.

      One was to change the default keybinds to changing tabs from alt+123 to control+123 because for some reason they changed it on linux to that which is retarded (opening a new tab is still control+t so you can’t just say that it is all the control options that got moved to alt lol).

      The other extension was to deattach the tab which firefox has no keybind set for it.

      And one of the best features that firefox has, which is the userChrome.css has only gotten worse over time with it breaking with new updates and also now having it disabled by default and hidden inside the about:config menu.

      The default vpn on brave is terrible, although that only affected windows. And firefox is only slightly better on this because and pardon me if I’m mistaken (I don’t wanna install firefox to check lol) didn’t they change the default settings to send all dns over https to cloudflare? On librewolf they got rid of the default one and you have to provide one instead.

      Edit: Look no further, you even have to install ublock origin on firefox to get rid of ads and also configure its filter list if you want to get rid of cookie prompts, something that brave does by default already.

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        These are all UI things you can add with extensions or some modding. Firefox needs forks for that.

        Not to speak of actual features like sandboxing on android, user namespace sandboxing on Linux, and more.

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          Firefox needs forks for that.

          You’d be amazed what you can do with userChrome.css.

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            True. This needs better documentation though, and I would highly appreciate to have official templates.

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          Yeah no biggy, just some 7 extensions and some css and you will get somewhat usable experience on Firefox…

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              That is horrible that you have to install a bunch of extensions for basic features, and one of those extensions to fix something that mozilla went out of their way to break on linux and not that they havent add.

              And there is also things like syncing the user sessions and settings without an email which brave can do while firefox and forks can’t

              edit: And you ignored half of my comment, doing css to get firefox to work IS NOT EASY lmao.

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                I ignored half your comment because changing the background color with CSS is 100% not important. And no, it’s not horrible that you can extend Firefox to do exactly what you want. What would be horrible is if you couldn’t.

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                  How can I make firefox sync my user session and settings between devices without having to use an email then? Last time I tried to do that with librewolf there was only one extension that did it for the bookmarks and nothing else.

                  edit: Ignored again, what a surprise. No wonder firefox is such a shitty browsers if its users don’t care about it working.