• ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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      3 hours ago

      It entirely depends on the bear species, but in general guns are a last resort defense against bears.

      Primary defense is avoidance and making it so they can avoid you. A bear will eat you, but is unlikely to hunt you. For most bears we’re an unknown quantity so they’ll avoid us, since other food is reasonably available with less risk.

      A bear has heavy fur, thick skin for storing winter fat deposits, and dense bones. While bullets will injure the bear and perhaps even kill it, it won’t be enough to save you.
      Much like how hitting someone on the head with a glass bottle will hurt them, almost certainly injure them, and potentially kill them, the type of injury is likely to be a fractured skull or brain bleed. Extremely serious and deadly, but they have minutes of functionality and hours of bewildered stumbling before they black out.

      So it’ll likely die… Later. For now you have a scared, confused and pissed off bear.

      I believe hollow points have less penetration power, so it might not even get through the hide. Other bullets will get through fine, but are unlikely to stop the bear dead.

      • console.log(bathing_in_bismuth)@sh.itjust.works
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        2 hours ago

        Woah. I must ask further in my quest to understand last resort bear encounter gun tips. What about an .45 calibred pistol with an magazine alternating between normal and hollow points? I get the skull take, even some fighting dogs are immune to 9mm skull shots. I don’t live in America, don’t own a gun but know a lot about guns, just very interested in this topic

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          49 minutes ago

          Your question is 100% valid.

          All these people piling on you claiming a bear will just shrug off having a hand gun emptied into it. That just sounds like bullshit to me, they aren’t robots… Bullets aren’t pellets that shit will penetrate and any species with a survival instinct will back up.

          I simply cannot believe what people are saying? Is there any proof or is it all just made up speculation people make by extrapolating size and injuries caused by bullets?

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          2 hours ago

          .44 magnum is barely on par with an intermediate rifle round like 5.56 against large game. And that’s before considering the massively lower felt recoil or the fact that a rifle is much easier to aim

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              14 minutes ago

              I haven’t heard of .500 blackout before, and google gives conflicting info on whether it’s “necked down .338 lapua magnum” or “like .510 whisper”

              polar bears have historically been felled with “panicked shooting with ar-15”, and the “standard recommendation” seems to be “magnum rifle round”