RSS is still the best way to track the news on the web, and these RSS readers can keep you right up to date.
Indeed. I installed FreshRSS on my local server and haven’t looked back. Man, did I ever miss the web of the google reader era.
What RSS feeds (preferably without needing an account like NY Times) would people like to recommend? I recently set up Feeder on my phone and have been curating it
And is there a way to bypass soft-paywalls with an app like feeder?
Never stopped.
One amazing RSS app I recommend to all Apple users is NetNewsWire. It’s Open Source and works very well. If Apple ever built an RSS reader, it’d be like this. It uses iCloud to sync between devices.
Lets you use a reader mode where it fetches readable content from the URL instead of just reading from the xml file.
And is very simple. If you use something like Feedly, it also works very well as a client for such services. I started using it like that, later just started using iCloud instead of Feedly
It’s Open Source
If Apple ever built an RSS reader, it’d be like this.
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Check out Selfoss, a self-hostable Online RSS tool, to browse and manage your feeds from the desktop and mobile
For those who wanna #selfhost I hear
is pretty good. I kinda gave up on RSS when all artists moved from Tumblr and websites with RSS to the disgusting social networks …
One question. Why do we need a web app for something that was designed to work locally?
Depends on your use-case obviously, for me it’s very nice to have all feeds and read status on all devices (laptop, phone, tablet) and don’t need to add a new feed to all devices or set it up again when I change phone, reinstall Linux etc. It also has user-management, so you could have accounts for friends and family and even expose it to the internet (which I wouldn’t at this point) or but it on a private mesh / vpn like Tail-/Headscale.
Edit: Whoops, I was talking about self-hosting. Having it as a web service has the same benefits if you don’t wanna tinker with tech, obviously, (with the caveat that people from that service know what you read …)
To sync across different devices maybe?
Do you need that? You only need to sync the feed. There are formats like OPML for that. At worst you need a file sync tool like syncthing. The feed contents seen by the readers are all the same.
I’m yet to see a good reason why feed readers need to be web apps. This is worse than the case of git - a decentralized tool is taken and made centralized.
Agreed. The syncing can be managed other ways. The only thing I’m left with is using on a work computer for some reason, where one’s own devices aren’t available/permitted? But that’s probably not a common usage case.
When you have 100+ feeds you really want to avoid reading twice the same entry. It’s the single most important feature in an RSS reader for me.
Anyone interested can find (usually free) externally hosted freshRss and TinyRss hosts on the chatons website. Select one of those in the “based on” drop down menu.
I’ve tried both and like neither. As far as I can tell, they only have a small number of apps. And none of them work offline. With a regular RSS reader you can refresh it when you have internet access, then everything is available when you do not. Like an email client or any other such software.
But it might be suitable to you. So check out the chatons.
I’m currently trying to retrieve my local gym’s Facebook feed as RSS so I don’t have to be on Facebook. It bites.
I just wish RSS readers could properly parse the webpages instead of only having the first paragraph and getting cut off
That’s actually not the RSS reader’s fault. It’s the rss feed you import that behaves like that. It’s on purpose, to make you go to their website and ingage in their traffic.
This is exactly the case.
In a lot of CMSes that offer RSS feed generation, there’s a setting you can frob - either put the entire article in each RSS entry, or just the first X words in the
<summary></summary>block. A lot of them default to the latter and folks never turn on the former.This is an important criteria for me. If I can’t read the full article without leaving the reader and without a WebView, I won’t keep the RSS feed.
Not a solution for everyone, but I am selfhosting and using FreshRSS. One of the extensions is Readable which will fetch the entry’s URL and parse it using either Readability or Postlight Parser to replace the content of the entry and make all of it available in the reader.
Best way around that I’ve found is with feedme on android. It’s got a mobilizer with a customizable css selector. Just set the app to load the feed in web view and to use the mobilizer and you’re good to go.
There are some that do. Inoreader as host and Reeder as client both support that. Not perfect, but working well enough
The thing that stops me from moving to rss is that I don’t follow any news sites or blogs. I’ve tried but they all kinda suck to me. The only thing I follow is youtube creators and lemmy communities. Lemmy is my rss feed pretty much.
I figured there are interesting people out there who don’t really blog often, but who might post something online a few times ever year and whom I’d like to stay updated on. So I started trying to collect some of these relatively inactive personal feeds.
It’s not ass noisy as following blogs or social media, which is what I like about it. The only drawback is of course that so few people maintain an RSS feed.
I follow my lemmy community with my rss and I tossed in a few other sites I felt interested in but always forget to look at like the local paper, that said my server has been collecting months of info but I haven’t setup the link to my mobile app out of laziness so it has all been going to waste
mbin is my rss reader. fediverse instance + bot
Which RSS bot do you use? I was going to make one for my RSS feeds, but if there already is one…
for lemmy, its pretty straight forward with this bot
https://github.com/programming-dot-dev/rss-bot
for the 'bins, there doesnt exist a direct-to-mbin bot yet (i’ve been workin on it… i suck at logins), in the meantime youd use a lemmy instance as intermediary:
you setup a non-public, localized lemmy instance, have the bot configured for your needs to grab feeds into communities, then subscribe from your 'bin instance.
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com is there an issue/branch/fork where bins support is happening? I’d like to help with that if I can.
@ginerel@kbin.social @mozz@mbin.grits.dev
There’s no way I’d be able to keep track of all the stuff I want without an RSS reader.
Does anybody have any recommendations for FOSS RSS readers with actual content surfacing features? So many RSS feeds are full of junk (this is particularly a problem with feeds with wildly disparate posting frequencies) and I’ve always felt they’d be a lot more useful if people were putting more effort into a modern way to sort through extremely dense feeds.
Fluent Reader
Don’t know what you mean by “actual content surfacing features”, but I’m quite happy with Feeder, it’s pretty basic but it’s FOSS and the notifications work!
Posted elsewhere: Really I mean anything more advanced than keyword filters and grouped feeds. Performance friendly NLP has come a long way since the advent of RSS
Would you happen to mean readers with filtering tools? If so I’m interested as well.
I know Thunderbird technically has them, but I’ve had trouble making them work as effectively as I’d like. RSSOwl had some that were easier to work with, but stopped being updated. There’s now a fork of it called RSSOwlnix, but I haven’t taken the time to see whether it still works as well or not. May be worth looking into though…
Really I mean anything more advanced than keyword filters. Performance friendly NLP has come a long way since the advent of RSS
I mean anything more advanced than keyword filters.
Sounds like an opportunity to integrate some AI… 🙈
We don’t need to use that word here
@ginerel@kbin.social a few people in this thread have mentioned using Kbin or Mbin as something of an RSS curration tool. I’d like to learn more about that.
The Drupal community maintains an aggregate of feeds from 200+ sources with posts about the CMS. In the last year or so, the quality of the content is noticeably worse. Some community members are blaming Ai generated content…
Chat GPT, write a 1000 word blog post about Agile that mentions Drupal
I think the problem has more to do with how Google rewards “fresh” content that repeats keywords with higher page rank than a better written article posted 2 years earlier.
Regardless of the cause, a small group already running drupal.community for Mastodon has been discussing using up voting as a way to let the community curate the feed.
Would love any advice or examples on using Kbin or Mbin to empower a small community to curate RSS content.
You know what I wish? That Google would’ve pushed one of their Chrome experiments through more.
For a while, the spam feed that Chrome opens to by default had a hidden setting you could enable, that added a subscribe button to websites. You clicked “Subscribe”, and the websites you subscribed to appeared on your start screen. This should’ve gone even further. It should’ve allowed opening
feed:links, so people could add subscribe buttons to websites.Behind the scenes, this was just “find the top level RSS feed”, but the UI was so much better than whatever RSS looked like the last moments before browsers removed them. Nobody knew what RSS was, “live bookmarks” were confusing to me even though I occasionally read through raw RSS XML, but all it needed was good UX. Instead, the old RSS web seemed determined to make very clear that RSS is its own “thing”, an orange button that wasn’t always there, that most people were afraid to click because nobody knew what it did.
Modern browsers, launchers, and operating systems all come with a list of articles, most of them pre-selected by Some Algorithm. Adding simple, standardised “subscribe” buttons to UX everywhere could’ve integrated with the system so well. I’m sure whatever behaviour analysis Google is doing and whatever ad network trash Microsoft is doing would’ve worked just as well with a feed the user can manage subscriptions for.
I think the key here is that it’s a feed managed by the user. There’s not enough commercial potential in that. As a tech company, you want to be the one curating the feed, and you want the user to believe you’re doing it in their best interest so they don’t notice how you’re making money by subtly feeding them ads.
RSS is simply too good for the contemporary internet.
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Piped is good too btw
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